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From: "David Michael Grouchy II" <david_michael_grouchy_ii@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (TFT) Re: Grouchy character sheet
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 14:25:06 -0600
At the time I was emboldened. I had been
brought in as a consultant of sorts. I had
identified a problem with their game play. After
discussing the situation with "Arial" I wrote up a
proposal and submitted it to the council.
It was to no effect. The council would not
even consider parting with their hit points. I
realized that if F.L.A.G. had been formed with TFT
players and not old school AD&D types, it might have
stood a chance, but hit points was the core of their
game system and it was what they were out there to
reality test.
David Michael Grouchy II
My sympathies and understandings of frustration on this subject. {by the
way, I seem to remember having this interaction several months back. Sorry
if I repeat myself.}
However, so your point is that there are other systems around that people
create and play?
Some people might think of SCA as XTREME sports.
Some people might think of F.L.A.G. or IFGS as Live D&D.
Unless you can get your method known and played, it ain't going to get
anywhere. At least the guys at F.L.A.G. asked for your comments. Would
you have done the same for them? If you had a group and asked "Ariel" to
give comment and in her fertive mind she passionately said that a touch of a
sword didn't represent a fight. If she said "you couldn't have a duel like
at the end of Rob Roy. Rob would be dead in three touches, not the 20+ he
received."
Do not be down on these souls who are at least trying and thriving on Live
Action with weapons. Live action Vampires does not even allow you to touch
one another. As far as I know, combat is done as Scissors-Paper-Rock finger
contest. However, both of these styles do allow children to become involved.
Both allow magic. Both involve role-playing.
There is a group that is Live role-playing with TFT as their basis. I
beleive they use hitpoints and dice. I don't recall if they actually strike
eachother. Will the players of this TFT Live Action please comment on this
again for us?
I have played about two games in IFGS and that over a twenty year period. I
like the concept. They are even more into the D&D philosophy of class
schedule that what your friends probably developed. I too, could not handle
the "numbers" during combat. This and "stagefright" are probably what kept
me away. BUT had I had an interest (and I still do), I would LOVE to write
and direct a production. This is truly an interactive play with the
audience as actors. The orinal Idea for IFGS (International Fantasy Gaming
Society) came from a successful book by co-authored by Niven. It inspired a
group to try and make the story concept real. Using virtual reality
projection and sensors, create a Disneyland/WestWorld themepark. In that
gameconcept, you also wouldn't need to "Count" your hits. The computer will
tell you (visually or perhaps by stings) when your arm is taken out. And
when that themepark appears, I will work for it.
I'm not an SCAer. I have friends and relatives who are various degrees. I
won't be because I don't want to invest the time, money or bodily damage. I
understand your problems with SCA being hardheaded about their "contact"
sport. Keep in mind that this is what they want. They play rugby, you're
showing them soccor. You're talking Mac, they think PC. SCA is very
cliquish. They are going against societies grain more than you are. They
are investing massive money and phisical damage into something society
thinks is a bit odd. Invest in a motorcross bike and go romping thru the
woods and desert, society thinks that OK. Go the Basketball Game and
RahRah, then go to the bar get drunk off your ass, hit on strange women and
beat up on stranger men, drive home and sideswipe parked cars, society
thinks thats pretty much Normal. SCA people have bought the idea of Domains
and Nobility and Hard Phisical Contact Fighting quite aside from society's
view.
Anyways, I ramble. David, if you feel strongly about this, seek out this
F.L.A.G. group and try again in getting converts OR develop your system with
children in mind, then take organize it and take it to the junior high
schools. If you want to beat out the SCA and F.L.A.G. get the kids before
they jaded into other rules.
Hail Melee,
John Paul
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