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Re: (TFT) Mass Combat CRTs

To: tft@brainiac.com
Subject: Re: (TFT) Mass Combat CRTs
From: "Jay Carlisle" <selfinflicted_wounds@boardermail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:31:00 +0800
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Christopher Fuhrman" <fuhrman8or@yahoo.com>
> 
> 
> Any chance you're going to post the results?
> 
> I'm curious how the simulator was used (although I have a good idea).
> 

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Results for 99 heroes, paired up for 100 bouts each
Victs %Vict Hero#:stats and equipment
0933, 09.5% 001:ST8;DX16;DAGGER;NO_ARMOR;SM_SHIELD
1037, 10.5% 022:ST9;DX15;JAVELIN;NO_ARMOR;SM_SHIELD
1047, 10.6% 029:ST10;DX14;HAMMER;NO_ARMOR;SM_SHIELD
1577, 16.0% 002:ST8;DX16;DAGGER;LEATHER;SM_SHIELD
1637, 16.7% 030:ST10;DX14;HAMMER;LEATHER;SM_SHIELD
1665, 16.9% 023:ST9;DX15;JAVELIN;LEATHER;SM_SHIELD
1867, 19.0% 031:ST10;DX14;HAMMER;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
2025, 20.6% 003:ST8;DX16;DAGGER;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
2026, 20.6% 024:ST9;DX15;JAVELIN;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
2099, 21.4% 008:ST9;DX15;RAPIER;NO_ARMOR;SM_SHIELD
2118, 21.6% 015:ST9;DX15;CLUB;NO_ARMOR;SM_SHIELD
2177, 22.2% 033:ST10;DX14;HAMMER;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
2266, 23.1% 026:ST9;DX15;JAVELIN;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
2271, 23.1% 005:ST8;DX16;DAGGER;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
2369, 24.1% 034:ST10;DX14;HAMMER;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
2550, 26.0% 027:ST9;DX15;JAVELIN;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
2575, 26.2% 035:ST10;DX14;HAMMER;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
2632, 26.8% 032:ST10;DX14;HAMMER;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
2644, 26.9% 006:ST8;DX16;DAGGER;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
2769, 28.2% 025:ST9;DX15;JAVELIN;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
2815, 28.7% 028:ST9;DX15;JAVELIN;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
2933, 29.9% 057:ST11;DX13;SPEAR;NO_ARMOR;NO_SHIELD
3015, 30.7% 004:ST8;DX16;DAGGER;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
3028, 30.8% 007:ST8;DX16;DAGGER;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
3174, 32.3% 009:ST9;DX15;RAPIER;LEATHER;SM_SHIELD
3255, 33.2% 016:ST9;DX15;CLUB;LEATHER;SM_SHIELD
3272, 33.3% 059:ST11;DX13;SPEAR;CHAIN;NO_SHIELD
3379, 34.4% 017:ST9;DX15;CLUB;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
3461, 35.3% 010:ST9;DX15;RAPIER;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
3636, 37.1% 058:ST11;DX13;SPEAR;LEATHER;NO_SHIELD
3784, 38.6% 012:ST9;DX15;RAPIER;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
3836, 39.1% 019:ST9;DX15;CLUB;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
3849, 39.2% 077:ST13;DX11;HALBERD;CHAIN;NO_SHIELD
3866, 39.4% 060:ST11;DX13;SPEAR;PLATE;NO_SHIELD
3870, 39.4% 013:ST9;DX15;RAPIER;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
3927, 40.0% 089:ST15;DX9;PIKE_AXE;CHAIN;NO_SHIELD
3931, 40.1% 020:ST9;DX15;CLUB;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
4004, 40.8% 097:ST16;DX8;PIKE_AXE;CHAIN;NO_SHIELD
4066, 41.4% 018:ST9;DX15;CLUB;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
4092, 41.7% 011:ST9;DX15;RAPIER;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
4107, 41.9% 078:ST13;DX11;HALBERD;PLATE;NO_SHIELD
4108, 41.9% 014:ST9;DX15;RAPIER;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
4125, 42.0% 021:ST9;DX15;CLUB;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
4238, 43.2% 096:ST16;DX8;PIKE_AXE;LEATHER;NO_SHIELD
4275, 43.6% 085:ST15;DX9;BATTLEAXE;CHAIN;NO_SHIELD
4388, 44.7% 093:ST16;DX8;BATTLEAXE;CHAIN;NO_SHIELD
4827, 49.2% 092:ST16;DX8;BATTLEAXE;LEATHER;NO_SHIELD
4951, 50.5% 081:ST14;DX10;2HAND_SWORD;CHAIN;NO_SHIELD
5032, 51.3% 075:ST13;DX11;HALBERD;NO_ARMOR;NO_SHIELD
5080, 51.8% 076:ST13;DX11;HALBERD;LEATHER;NO_SHIELD
5241, 53.4% 095:ST16;DX8;PIKE_AXE;NO_ARMOR;NO_SHIELD
5309, 54.1% 088:ST15;DX9;PIKE_AXE;LEATHER;NO_SHIELD
5436, 55.4% 071:ST13;DX11;MORNINGSTAR;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
5467, 55.7% 067:ST12;DX12;BROADSWORD;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
5485, 55.9% 036:ST10;DX14;CUTLASS;NO_ARMOR;SM_SHIELD
5492, 56.0% 090:ST15;DX9;PIKE_AXE;PLATE;NO_SHIELD
5513, 56.2% 098:ST16;DX8;PIKE_AXE;PLATE;NO_SHIELD
5518, 56.3% 082:ST14;DX10;2HAND_SWORD;PLATE;NO_SHIELD
5609, 57.2% 056:ST11;DX13;MACE;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
5628, 57.4% 042:ST10;DX14;CUTLASS;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
5676, 57.9% 049:ST11;DX13;SHORTSWORD;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
5758, 58.7% 073:ST13;DX11;MORNINGSTAR;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
5762, 58.7% 039:ST10;DX14;CUTLASS;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
5767, 58.8% 064:ST12;DX12;BROADSWORD;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
5829, 59.4% 091:ST16;DX8;BATTLEAXE;NO_ARMOR;NO_SHIELD
5883, 60.0% 086:ST15;DX9;BATTLEAXE;PLATE;NO_SHIELD
5906, 60.2% 094:ST16;DX8;BATTLEAXE;PLATE;NO_SHIELD
5929, 60.5% 084:ST15;DX9;BATTLEAXE;LEATHER;NO_SHIELD
5930, 60.5% 038:ST10;DX14;CUTLASS;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
5964, 60.8% 046:ST11;DX13;SHORTSWORD;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
5969, 60.9% 053:ST11;DX13;MACE;PLATE;SM_SHIELD
6003, 61.2% 041:ST10;DX14;CUTLASS;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
6041, 61.6% 074:ST13;DX11;MORNINGSTAR;PLATE;LR_SHIELD
6106, 62.3% 070:ST13;DX11;MORNINGSTAR;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
6148, 62.7% 066:ST12;DX12;BROADSWORD;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
6167, 62.9% 055:ST11;DX13;MACE;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
6264, 63.9% 048:ST11;DX13;SHORTSWORD;CHAIN;LR_SHIELD
6311, 64.3% 087:ST15;DX9;PIKE_AXE;NO_ARMOR;NO_SHIELD
6356, 64.8% 052:ST11;DX13;MACE;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
6385, 65.1% 037:ST10;DX14;CUTLASS;LEATHER;SM_SHIELD
6385, 65.1% 045:ST11;DX13;SHORTSWORD;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
6427, 65.5% 063:ST12;DX12;BROADSWORD;CHAIN;SM_SHIELD
6552, 66.8% 040:ST10;DX14;CUTLASS;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
6667, 68.0% 080:ST14;DX10;2HAND_SRD;LEATHER;NO_SHIELD
6769, 69.0% 050:ST11;DX13;MACE;NO_ARMOR;SM_SHIELD
6851, 69.9%043:ST11;DX13;SHORTSWORD;NO_ARMOR;SMSHIELD
6943, 70.8% 083:ST15;DX9;BATTLEAXE;NO_ARMOR;NO_SHIELD
7095, 72.3% 054:ST11;DX13;MACE;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
7107, 72.5% 079:ST14;DX10;2HANDSRD;NO_ARMOR;NO_SHIELD
7169, 73.1%047:ST11;DX13;SHORTSWORD;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
7185, 73.3%72:ST13;DX11;MORNINGSTAR;LEATHER;LR_SHIELD
7208, 73.5%044:ST11;DX13;SHORTSWORD;LEATHER;SM_SHIELD
7241, 73.8% 051:ST11;DX13;MACE;LEATHER;SM_SHIELD
7356, 75.0% 065:ST12;DX12;BROADSWORD;LEATHER;LRSHIELD
7446, 75.9% 062:ST12;DX12;BROADSWORD;LEATHER;SMSHIELD
7498, 76.5% 061:ST12;DX12;BROADSWORD;NOARMOR;SMSHIELD
7511, 76.6%061b:ST12;DX12;BROADSWORD;NOARMOR;SMSHIELD
7518, 76.7%069:ST13;DX11;MORNINGSTAR;LEATHER;SMSHIELD
7764, 79.2%068:ST13;DX11;MORNINGSTAR;NOARMOR;SMSHIELD
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This is also jermaine to Units (I'll try to get a bit up on that later) but for now.

Close Combat Table 20.3
Odds Ratio     Kill Number
1-5+           2
1-4            3
1-2            4
1-1            5
3-2            6
2-1            7
3-1            8
4-1            9
6-1            10
8+-1           11
(note;Squad Leader uses 2d6)

20.3 In Close Combat, the firepower factors of attacking units are compared to the firepower factor of the enemy units being attacked in order to arrive at a ratio of attack to defence strength known as odds. Fractions are always rounded down in favor of the defender. If the Kill Number or lower is rolled the attacked units are eliminated.

Okay close combat in Squad Leader is ALMOST an afterthought. In life it's basicly suiside to charge a defended posistion especally when they have suport weapons and Squad Leader reflects this. 

The more I think about this the more I think I should come at it from the other end (Units) so let me note for now that I have an extra die to play with as in
2 / 2.7%
3 / 5.5%
4 / 8.3%
5 / 11.1%
etc. for 2d

3 / 0.5%
4 / 1.38%
5 / 2.7%
etc. for 3d

the idea being that if your gonna FOCUS on mass combat then it'd be better if the CRT wasn't quite this dry. But I wanna talk about how to make them before I get into killing them...


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