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Re: (TFT) Mars - Rick was hot.



I just got back from the Mars Society convention 
in Dallas.  (I was invited to give a talk there.)
If any one has a question on Mars, I'm a fair 
expert.

Boy was it hot in Dallas!  The high ways were 
built with expansion joints but it was so hot,
that they were not enough and the highways were
buckling.  They have _never_ experienced heat 
like this before.

Warm regards, Rick.

On Thu, 2011-04-08 at 16:07 -0400, Joey Beutel wrote:
> On Aug 4, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jay Carlisle wrote:
> 
> > NASA announces a big discovery about Mars press conference at 11:00  
> > in the
> > a.m. my time and nobody in the u.s. press gets to it before I can  
> > get it
> > from the BBC.
> > Not even NASA's own websites.
> > Sigh...
> > Anyway;
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14408928
> > Flowing water on Mars...
> > ...
> > Flowing water?
> > ...
> > Each "summer"?
> > ...
> > Duhhhhhhhh...
> > <Scratches bleeding hole in scalp>
> > How does the water get up the highlands to flow down into the  
> > "valleys"?
> > There's not really weather...
> > Am I really that stupid?
> 
> No, but there is weather on Mars. Even a "sand storm" in winter (when  
> the water is all frozen) could move the ice around.
> 
> Also, last time I checked they think there are conventional storms on  
> Mars as well....
> > ...
> > As this is a speculative matter and not a issue of future planing  
> > I'm gonna
> > take the liberty of assuming I'm not completely dain-bramaged and  
> > that the
> > water in the highlands could end up being quite an issue.
> > Wikipedia is saying;
> > "Current models of the planet's interior imply a core region about  
> > 1,480 km
> > in radius, consisting primarily of iron with about 1417% sulfur.  
> > This iron
> > sulfide core is partially fluid, and has twice the concentration of  
> > the
> > lighter elements than exist at Earth's core. The core is surrounded  
> > by a
> > silicate mantle that formed many of the tectonic and volcanic  
> > features on
> > the planet, but now appears to be inactive. The average thickness of  
> > the
> > planet's crust is about 50 km, with a maximum thickness of 125 km.[27]
> > Earth's crust, averaging 40 km, is only one third as thick as Mars  
> > crust,
> > relative to the sizes of the two planets."
> > So until I get a better idea of exotectonics the understanding I  
> > have so far
> > says that it might not be geological activity that's circulating the  
> > water.
> > I've got a bastardized Velikovsky-like idea ("Velikovsky would  
> > rebuild the
> > science of celestial mechanics to save the literal accuracy of ancient
> > legends") that has Mars being hit "ballistically" by an object that  
> > strikes
> > it like a bullet hits an apple.
> > Phobos, Demos, a bunch of meteors so the Eskimo's can have a few metal
> > harpoon tips... and a bunch of water splashed outta the ocean basin  
> > up onto
> > the highlands to get frozen in pretty quickly as the "bullet" took the
> > atmosphere with it...
> > Great.
> > Now I'm back to projectiles in a rough vacuum at 1/3rd earth  
> > gravity...
> > Of course if their teraforming via greenhouse gas emitters  
> > (factories even)
> > then over time the friction is gonna increase but I'd rather carve  
> > giant
> > chuncks of heavy gas out where its frozen and lob snowballs at Mars  
> > till she
> > has a little blanket.
> > Maybe even park Pluto on her.
> > I'm not a very patient creator... I like to muck about in things...  
> > part
> > seas and whatnot from time to time.
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