From: ed <edhogg@equus.demon.co.uk>
>On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:28:46 -0400, Michael Taylor:
>>>Also, for reference only, Chivalry and Sorcery has a great article in their
>>>2nd Sourcebook. In gaming terms, how to build fine weapons, magic weapons,
>>>ego weapons....
>
>>Is this in the first edition (orange?) or 2nd edition of this game (green)?
>
>There was no green sourcebook (unless you count Saurians or Swords and
>Sorcerors). This was 2nd edition Sourcebook 2
<later>
From: "John Paul Bakshoian" <hailmelee@hotmail.com>
>My cover has a red cover and was printed in 1981, so I guess thats first
>edition of Source Book #2.
You are both right. This is in the first and second editions of the
C&S Sourcebook 2 (this is the second sourcebook for C&S - it is much thinner
than the first Sourcebook). But mostly these tables are useful for
reducing the number of die-rolls needed for armorer PCs to roll to
figure out how long it takes to make these items. The actual item descriptions
are in the Magic chapters of C&S.
Or as someone else suggested, check out the Armourer's Companion from
Brittannia Games Design, the current publishers of C&S 3rd Ed., C&S Light,
Knight's Companion, Dwarves Companion, and Elves Companion. They are much easier
to find.
For more rules about Fine Weapons and Armor in TFT, see Bill Seurer's house rules
on my website: http://www.skypoint.com/~slocum/tft/.
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> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 14:38:03 -0500
> From: "Tim.Sireno" <tim.sireno@econmktg.com>
> Subject: (TFT) zombies and skeletons again
>
> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:57:24 +0100
> >From: "Cas Liber" <casliber@ozemail.com.au>
> >Subject: (TFT) zombies and skeletons again
>
> >PS: Why wouldn't a mage skin a corpse to the bone and make a
> skeleton in
> the
> >first place and never have to worry about ST loss?
> >yours necromantically
> >Cas
>
> Well, interestingly enough - some players in my TFT
> campaign had a similar
> question which lead them to an inspiration in their magical
> research - the
> Deskin spell! (If anyone wants it, let me know, I'll have to
> dig around for
> it, since it's likely still packed away since I moved) This
> spell basically
> allowed a mage to whip up skeletions after winning a battle
> against their
> foes, by magically vaporizing the skin down to the skeletal remains.
> Plus there's an interesting side note to the history of
> this spell.
> Originally, this spell was only usable on the dead. But one
> particularly
> nasty player set out to create a magic item that would be
> usable on the
> living. Alas, once this horrific item was created, this
> unfortunate player
> soon discovered that the NPC he was attempting to use this
> vile magic item
> on had recently purlioned and was using the players earlier magic item
> creation "the Reverse Spell shield" (similar to the Reverse
> Missiles spell
> but works with magic instead). Whereupon the Deskin spell was
> bounced back
> upon him! Thus ended that particular magic users career, and
> added several
> magic items to the artifact status. And only to be found in
> possession of
> that (now) powerful NPC! Players who recognise that NPC's
> name now flee in
> terror by the mere mention of that fellow showing up, and
> those who don't,
> Well.... let's not mention what happens to them!
>
> - Tim Sireno
> AKA White Wolf
> Gamemaster of the World of Cendri Campaign (& one
> time BBS of same name)
> (Yes, that's Cendri, not Cidri. The name Cendri is
> another story...
> Ask me sometime if your interested.)
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> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 13:42:47 -0500
> From: Scott_Moore@praxair.com
> Subject: RE: (TFT) Fine Armor Manufacturing?
>
> How could I get any issues of Interplay? Ebay?
>
>
>
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> >After going through my Interplays twice, I found it! Base
> of page 4 in IP
> #5 after Physicker Revival.<
>
> Thank you! This was driving me crazy!
>
> Heads up that its NOT in any of the Interplay indexes or the
> Collector's
> list!
>
> Michael
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> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:11:50 +0100
> From: ed <edhogg@equus.demon.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: (TFT) Fine Armor Manufacturing?
>
> On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 22:57:33 PDT, "John Paul Bakshoian"
> <hailmelee@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Also, for reference only, Chivalry and Sorcery has a great
> article in their
> >2nd Sourcebook. In gaming terms, how to build fine weapons,
> magic weapons,
> >ego weapons....
> >
> >Hail Melee
>
> You could always buy the "Armourer's Companion" which will
> tell you all
> sorts of useful information for a small consideration.
>
> The story at the start is bloody good, but then I wrote it.
>
> ed
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> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:43:04 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
> Subject: RE: (TFT) Fine Armor Manufacturing?
>
> Michael Taylor <MichaelTaylor1@compuserve.com> wrote:
> > Message text written by INTERNET:tft@brainiac.com
> > >After going through my Interplays twice, I found it! Base
> of page 4 in IP
> > #5 after Physicker Revival.<
> >
> > Heads up that its NOT in any of the Interplay indexes or
> the Collector's
> > list!
>
> (Raising my head above the mounds of work before diving in again...)
>
> It _is_ listed in The Maverick's Space and Fantasy Gamer's Guide.
> I'm almost caught up with my email....
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> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:28:46 -0400
> From: Michael Taylor <MichaelTaylor1@compuserve.com>
> Subject: RE: (TFT) Fine Armor Manufacturing?
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> >
> Also, for reference only, Chivalry and Sorcery has a great
> article in their
>
> 2nd Sourcebook. In gaming terms, how to build fine weapons,
> magic weapons,
>
> ego weapons....
>
> Hail Melee
>
> JPB<
>
> Is this in the first edition (orange?) or 2nd edition of this
> game (green)?
>
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> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 22:16:50 -0400
> From: Michael Taylor <MichaelTaylor1@compuserve.com>
> Subject: RE: (TFT) Fine Armor Manufacturing?
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> Message text written by INTERNET:tft@brainiac.com
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> It _is_ listed in The Maverick's Space and Fantasy Gamer's Guide.
> I'm almost caught up with my email....
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> <
>
> Doh! Thanks! I'll try to remember to check that one first!
>
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> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:42:05 +0100
> From: "Cas Liber" <casliber@ozemail.com.au>
> Subject: Re: (TFT) zombies and skeletons again
>
> Dear tim, sounds like a good spell, when you are settled, pop
> it online thst
> would be great
> Cas
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> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:45:44 -0400
> From: srydzews@ix.netcom.com
> Subject: Re: Re: (TFT) zombies and skeletons again
>
> My take on this was always that if you made a zombie
> and used a zombie ring it would never change, but if
> you instead went the route of occasionally pumping
> additional strength into them so that they're constantly
> decaying with occasional toughening, eventually the
> dessicated remains would become skeletons. It's never
> actually come up, but I imagine a month or two of
> this treatment would about do it.
>
> BTW might I suggest "flense" as the name for the
> flesh removal spell?
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> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:15:21 +0100
> From: ed <edhogg@equus.demon.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: (TFT) Fine Armor Manufacturing?
>
> On Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:28:46 -0400, Michael Taylor
> <MichaelTaylor1@compuserve.com> wrote:
>
> >Message text written by INTERNET:tft@brainiac.com
> >>
> >Also, for reference only, Chivalry and Sorcery has a great
> article in their
> >
> >2nd Sourcebook. In gaming terms, how to build fine weapons,
> magic weapons,
> >
> >ego weapons....
> >
> >Hail Melee
> >
> >JPB<
> >
> >Is this in the first edition (orange?) or 2nd edition of
> this game (green)?
>
> There was no green sourcebook (unless you count Saurians or Swords and
> Sorcerors). This was 2nd edition Sourcebook 2
>
> ed
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> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:20:37 PDT
> From: "John Paul Bakshoian" <hailmelee@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: (TFT) Fine Armor Manufacturing?
>
> >From: Michael Taylor <MichaelTaylor1@compuserve.com>
> >>Subject: RE: (TFT) Fine Armor Manufacturing?
> >Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 20:28:46 -0400
> >
> >Message text written by INTERNET:tft@brainiac.com
> > >
> >>Also, for reference only, Chivalry and Sorcery has a great
> article >>in
> >>their 2nd Sourcebook. In gaming terms, how to build fine
> weapons, magic
> >>weapons, ego weapons....
> >>
> >>Hail Melee
> >>
> >>JPB<
> >
> >Is this in the first edition (orange?) or 2nd edition of
> this game (green)?
> >
> >Michael
>
> My cover has a red cover and was printed in 1981, so I guess
> thats first
> edition of Source Book #2.
>
> Also, I just looked it over again. Perhaps its not all that
> informative.
> However, it was enough to get my creative juices going many
> years back.
>
> JPB
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> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 12:42:34 PDT
> From: "John Paul Bakshoian" <hailmelee@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: (TFT) TFT @ L.A. Game Convention
>
> Joel, will you be attending the L.A. Con this weekend? I might have
> contacted you a bit late on this.
>
> Any other takers?
>
> Just a note to all, I will be promoting this website to the
> hardcore TFT
> players at the con.
>
> Hail Melee
> John Paul
>
>
>
> >From: "joel sira" <jodasi@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: (TFT) TFT @ L.A. Game Convention
> >Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:44:37 GMT
> >
> >Id like to go :) as a mater of fact, I will be in LA that
> weekend. THanks
> >for the heads up on the game con.
> >
> >>----Original Message Follows----
> >>From: "John Paul Bakshoian" <hailmelee@hotmail.com>
> >>Subject: Re: (TFT) TFT @ L.A. Game Convention
> >>Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:25:45 PDT
> >>
> >>The game convention is GATEWAY 2000. September 1-4, 2000
> (this is an all
> >>day/night activity, though aftermidnite games are usually
> >>sparse). At the Westin Hotel at the Los Angeles Airport.
> KILI's HEROES
> >>will be on Saturday Night from about 7pm to after
> >>midnite.
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