Re: (TFT) HTH mechanics

[Nocstar <shepherd93@insightbb.com>]

Hi Peter,
         I like these rules. They seem balanced, yet still leave the innate 
horror of grappling with a tiger. The only suggestion I would make is the 
fending off rule. I like the correction about a weapon larger than a 
dagger, but don't you think a master of Unarmed Combat would also be able 
to avoid HTH as easily or easier than a typical armed thug? I haven't 
thought much about this but here are some points to consider.

    * The difficulty to target a UC artist would increase with the level of 
training.
    * No weapon is needed to fend off.
    * A UC artist attempting HTH would gain an advantage based on level of 
training.
    * The advanced masters would be nearly impossible to take down by the 
untrained.

I might try to develop this later on. Work is interfering with my fantasy 
life. "They" just don't have their priorities right.

Keep 'em swinging!
                 David


At 06:18 PM 3/12/2005, you wrote:
>Self-correction to proposed HTH entry rules: fending off should probably 
>require a weapon larger than a dagger:
>
>
>1) Use the by-the-book TFT rules, whichever sequence you prefer, though I 
>would tend to choose the "during movement" system listed under the HTH 
>rules themselves, since they are more specific, with the one-die roll 
>replaced by the following new rules:
>
>2) When a figure moves to attempt HTH from the defender's front or side 
>hex, if the defender has not yet taken his action for the turn, then the 
>defender gets the option to strike at the attacker immediately using any 
>ready weapon larger than a dagger - this will use the defender's action 
>for the turn. The to-hit roll is on 4 dice if the attacker entered from 
>the side. If the defender hits the attacker, HTH does not occur and the 
>attacker remains in the hex from which they attempted HTH (*). If the 
>defender misses or does not attack, the attacker must roll 3 dice on DX to 
>enter HTH - if they fail, the attacker remains in the hex from which they 
>attempted HTH (*).
>    (* - If HTH attempts are interpreted as occurring during movement, a 
> failed HTH attempt stops the attacker's movement, but does not cost them 
> their attack. If instead, HTH attempts are interpreted as being an 
> action, a failed HTH attempt uses the attacker's action for the turn.)
>
>3) If HTH does occur, each figure has the option to immediately drop their 
>weapon and/or shield (weapons larger than daggers are useless in HTH, and 
>shields offer no protection, but dropping them is not strictly required). 
>Also as HTH begins, if the defender has a free hand (due to immediate 
>dropping or otherwise), he has the option to try to draw a dagger (if he 
>has one reachable) - this require a 3 die roll versus DX to succeed.
>    (Optional rule: a 17 on the defender's dagger-draw roll means the 
> dagger falls in the hex. An 18 means it falls into a random adjacent hex, 
> unreachable from the HTH hex.)
>
>4) Choose one of the following optional rules:
>
>4a) If HTH does occur, both figures fall down in the defender's hex.
>
>4b) When HTH occurs and at the start of every turn including the first, 
>each standing figure in HTH must roll 3 dice vs. ST or fall down. If a 
>figure doesn't fall down, resolve HTH normally except standing figures are 
>not at +4 to be hit, and when HTH ends they won't need to take a turn to 
>stand up.
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