Re: (TFT) TFT Mapping

[<Gavin@TheFantasyQuest.com>]

My greatest fantasy adventures in GMing have been very fundamental stories, 
any one of which could easily taken place in the Wild West or a Space Ship. 
I just happen to prefer Fantasy as a mode of storytelling.

Gavin Gossett
The Fantasy Quest
TFQ Games

Gavin@TheFantasyQuest.com
www.TheFantasyQuest.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Richard Walters" <rick.walters@yahoo.com>
To: <tft@brainiac.com>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: (TFT) TFT Mapping


> I'd disagree.  Fantasy isn't exactly that fantastic, and Science Fiction 
> isn't really all that fictional.
>
> Consider just how much reality exists in every fantasy story.  Physics, 
> Ethics, Mathematics, Logic, and Language still exist in some form or 
> another.  It's very rare that stories are so abstracted from reality that 
> they bend your imagination into dimensions of possibility that really 
> challenge the limits of absurdity.  So, even when people fly unbounded by 
> gravity, or use magic or breathe water; the story still relies upon 99% of 
> the unstated other suppositions we take for granted.
>
> And science fiction is often more rooted in science than it is in fiction. 
> Sure, the "black laser" doesn't make any sense, but every bit of science 
> that went into developing the understanding of what a laser is in the 
> first place is pulled into the story when you mention the black laser.  If 
> it wasn't then you wouldn't be so skeptical.  Rather you'd just shrug and 
> continue on.  So, 99% of the laser is science and just that tiny craziness 
> about it being a "black" laser is fiction.
>
> The reason I'm even replying to this thread is because I turn over the art 
> of storytelling in my mind quite frequently.  And, I've often heard people 
> make the same statement as here and wonder why it is so important to 
> distinguish between these two shades of grey?
>
> Science Fiction and Fantasy Fiction are both stories where normally a 
> small fraction of the story is actually fictional.  The plot may never 
> have happened, the beasts and ships and lasers and swords also may never 
> have cast a shadow in the real world..  But, even when an entire story 
> takes place on a distant planet, how much of the story revolves around 
> those unknown fictional things, and how much of it revolves around real 
> emotions, character flaws, physical movements or basics for survival?
>
> I mean, you could set Shakespeare in space without much difficulty.  How 
> much of the story would then be science fiction? And, wouldn't it probably 
> be a better story if there were less setting elements to distract you? 
> Wouldn't the story itself be stronger if the setting's science or fantasy 
> didn't distract from the plot?  Isn't that the point of a good story?
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Michael Grouchy II <david_michael_grouchy_ii@hotmail.com>
> To: mailing list <tft@brainiac.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 2:55:38 PM
> Subject: RE: (TFT) TFT Mapping
>
> > Science fiction and fantasy are as different as Karl Marx and Groucho 
> > Marx.
>
> Jay,
>  /Chuckle.  Yeah, heh.  But all writing is false until proven true.  So 
> far Science has not moved to conclusion on anything being completely true. 
> Further, the genealogy on Fantasy shows that it is the child of Science 
> fiction.
>
> David Michael Grouchy II
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