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Re: (TFT) Pole weapons in Rick's campaign - Play styles.
Just use GURPS, if that's what you want.
The whole point is that we want a realistic feel, not anal-retentive accura
cy in all things. That's why we play TFT instead of GURPS....
From: Jay Carlisle <maou.tsaou@gmail.com>
To: tft@brainiac.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: (TFT) Pole weapons in Rick's campaign - Play styles.
So first off TFT weapons are highly abstract groupings that fit the die
mechanic more than model the objects. This is further muddled by the mass
production marketing mentality that treats all forms as available and in
practical service for individual melee instead of the more common arms race
weapon development exhibits ergo the pilum for the phalanx which the
landsneckars reworked for great effect in Swiss alp passes with the corners
developing into teams with each member responsible for a task that in sum
total leaves ex hvy cav but the pole weapon didn't dispatch just
dismounted... anyway pikes are not melee weapons. Those are for formations
and poor out of such like quite a few shields among other examples.
5 second turns on 1.3m tiles is a mighty slow charge and at that scale a 6
foot tall Hero can 2hex jab a 3 foot blade length into the 2nd
hex-center... waiting on a win install after the rootkit from hell so pics
are a pain till the craptops tickin again this eve... a TFT Melee attack
roll is not simulating a particular blow but rather all the action of a
short yardage play in football. For blow by blow dueling and etc I use a
modified En Guard! Swashbuckler (Yaquento) system and 1 sec turns with
phases from perception time (2sec/IQ in sight) plus action time
(1sec/DX+action mod) and on the quarter inch graph instead of the hextiles
for movement with each sq just over a square foot allowing "Author Murry"
dance step footwork and yada yada yada... the trick is to skip the rule for
everything by writing Roberts Rules for rule writing so groups can focus on
their interests while still maintaining some formality that makes it an
actual game instead of a different game every table all called D&D...
On Oct 22, 2015 12:43 PM, "Edward Kroeten" <ekroeten@farmersagent.com>
wrote:
> I can't remember who said it but I think it was Jeffrey, we want a realis
> tic flavor not exact realism. I don't care if orc #1 broke his rib
or no
> t, the minus 2 DX penalty is good enough. When I specifically want
to ta
> rget something there are aimed shots rules.
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> As long as it seems right, generally we don't mess with it. B
ut if some
> thing seems wonky, out of wack or too easy then you change it. That
is y
> our option, could you adapt your tactics to David's rules if he is GM? Su
> re one thing might be more pole arms and more ranged weapons in your part
> y group. Another might targeting priority. Again as long as i
t is fun g
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> ht want Neapolitan ice cream. It's all personal taste. Arggh
now I am h
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> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: 12:20 PM PDT, 10/22/2015
> From: Robert Ward <rob@dolwen.com>
> To: tft@brainiac.com
> Subject: Re: (TFT) Pole weapons in Rick's campaign - Play st
yles.
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> And now to be fair, boomerang shield etc aside
!
> Some things that ARE realistic about TFT:
> 1. Melee combat is deadly and numbers will def
eat the greatest her
> o
> 2. Good formations and tactics will wipe the f
loor against uncoord
> inated
> mob (but see 1)
> Rob
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> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015, at 07:27 PM, Edward kroe
ten wrote:
> >
> >
> > Wait you mean there is no realistic magic!?!
? Â LOL.
> >
> >
> > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY SÂ
®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smart
> phone
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Jeffrey Vandine <jlv61560@yahoo.com>
> > Date: 10/22/2015 10:48 AM (GMT-08:00)
> > To: tft@brainiac.com
> > Subject: Re: (TFT) Pole weapons in Rick's ca
mpaign - Play styles
> .
> >
> > Or, if we're going down that path; Elves, Dw
arves,Orcs, Goblins,
> magic,
> > alc
> > hemy that works, Cidri....
> >
> >   ��   From: David Bofinger <bofing
> er.david@gmail.com>
> > To: tft@brainiac.com
> > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 3:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: (TFT) Pole weapons in Rick's ca
mpaign - Play styles
> .
> > Â Â
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> > > One word on TFT and reality: shields!
> >
> > Shields ... and dragons. Our two words on TF
T and reality. Among
> st our
> > many
> > ...
> >
> > ---
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 October 2015 at 06:05, Edward kroeten
<ekroeten@farmersage
> nt.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > One word on TFT and reality: shields!
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S��¬Ã†4, an
> AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
> > >
> > > -------- Original message --------
> > > From: Jeffrey Vandine <jlv61560@yahoo.com>
> > > Date: 10/21/2015Â 11:0
9 AMÂ (GMT-08:00)
> > > To: tft@brainiac.com
> > > Subject: Re: (TFT) Pole weapons in Rick's
campaign - Play styl
> es.
> > >
> > > David makes a good point.Â
¬â€ I don't
> use TFT to simulate real
> > ity either,
> > >Â but I want it to "fee
l" realistic.‰Ã
¢
> �¬ I don't make my p
> > layer
> > s describe
> > > their bowel movements, or detail what they
had for breakfast e
> ither, but
> >
> > we
> > >Â all know both of thos
e events happen somewhere along th
> e way....
> > > In the end, we want the rules to reflect a
t least a smidgen of
> what could
> > r
> > > eally happen on the battlefield -- perhaps
not going into so m
> uch detail
> >
> > th
> > > at we describe the specific damage done by
every blow in grues
> ome detail,
> > b
> > > ut certainly we want the visceral impact o
f knowing that takin
> g five hits
> > i
> > > s going to seriously hamper a suddenly and
badly wounded chara
> cter -- esp
> > ec
> > > ially given that the character only had 12
hits to begin with!
>
> > > In short; "Simulation?"Â��¬Ã¢â‚¬ No.Â
Â
> �†"Realism?"��¯Â¿Â½
> > �Ã
¯Â¿Â½Ã¯Â¿Â½Ã��Â
¿
> ½ Yes.
> > >
> > > ‰��‚¬ ‰â‚
¬ Â
> ¬â€ ¬
†¬ï
Â
¿
> ½
> > �Ã
¯Â¿Â½From: David Bofinger <bofing
> er.david@gmail.com>
> > >Â To: tft@brainiac.com
> > >Â Sent: Wednesday, Octo
ber 21, 2015 12:43 AM
> > >Â Subject: Re: (TFT) Po
le weapons in Rick's campaign - Pl
> ay styles.
> > > ‰��‚¬ ‰â‚
¬
>
> > > > TFT is a game.��†I do not use it t
> o simulate reality, so c
> > alling on
> > > examples
> > > > from 600 years ago, tho interesting, do
not tempt me to chan
> ge my rules
> > .
> > > > My question on adding rules is do the ne
w rules improve game
> play in
> > > > some way.
> > >
> > > This is fine as far as it goes, but leaves
open the question o
> f what is a
> > n
> > > improvement. I think it's fairly clear tha
t for 90+% of player
> s the
> > > relationship to reality matters. There's a
n attraction to TFT
> that chess
> > > doesn't have: part of the fun is that what
happens in the game
> can be
> > > imagined as happening in real life, and ch
aracters can be imag
> ined to be
> > > real people. Conversely, a really silly ru
le like "characters
> with odd
> > > strength walk on the floor, characters wit
h even strength walk
> on the
> > > ceiling" would be seen as bad even if it h
ad some advantage in
> other ways
> > .
> > > So for most people eliminating a source of
unrealism does, cet
> eris paribu
> > s,
> > > constitute an improvement.
> > >
> > > That said, maybe we don't need a lot of re
solution: TFT mostly
> aims at a
> > > simple approximation to more or less reali
ty. And I'm doubtful
> about the
> > > relevance of the performance of Swiss pike
phalanges, that fou
> ght mostly
> >
> > in
> > > open fields with thousands of men and 4.5
metre pikes, to the
> often cramp
> > ed
> > > conditions and small unit tactics of TFT s
oldiers wielding hal
> berds and
> > > spears.
> > >
> > > --
> > > David
> > >
> > >
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