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--Thomas
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 17:23 Craig Barber <craigwbar@comcast.net> wrote:
> So I wonder if anyone in the 1920s or 1930s* caught on movie film* the
> moment of impact between a genuine cav charge and pole weapons? (Maybe
> during The River War, or the breakup of the Austo-Hungarian Empire or a
> Russian invasion of Turkey?) What really happens? I wouldn't trust
> written accounts from the cavalry era(s) --- due to viewpoint problems.
> (Herald: "Then our stalwart yeomanry did withstand the enemy charge!" [real
> world: 60% casualties among the pikemen, go get more yeoman before your
> next battle]).
>
> My most vivid "memories" of it are... TLOTR: Peter Jackson has the
> Rohirrim pretty much pancake the poor orcs twice: Helm's Deep and Minis
> Tirith. OTOH, the USMC claimed into the 1910's at least (had an elderly
> relative) that they were stoic enough to stop a cav charge just with
> mounted bayonets and discipline. Seems like good fiction or poor memories
> are all we have to go on. Someone here know of some original source
> material?
>
> -- Craig
>
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I found a few early video examples of cavalry caught on film.=C2=A0<div><br=
></div><div>This video:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://youtu.be/QCB8SWy3b0U";>https=
://youtu.be/QCB8SWy3b0U</a></div><div>From 1898 shows training of horses an=
d was in Thomas Edison's collection</div><div><br></div><div>This video=
from:=C2=A0</div><div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/sUIbk8egtC0";>https://you=
tu.be/sUIbk8egtC0</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>From same time frame sho=
ws the famous Teddy Roosevelt rough riders doing a simulated charge for the=
camera.</div><div><br></div><div>This video:=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://youtu=
.be/smXCBdgbMfI">https://youtu.be/smXCBdgbMfI</a></div><div>From 1900, also=
from Thomas Edison's collection, speed an actual cavalry charge during=
the boer war, but it was against artillery and guns and not against lances=
</div><div><br></div><div>--Thomas</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 17:23 Craig Barbe=
r <<a href=3D"mailto:craigwbar@comcast.net";>craigwbar@comcast.net</a>>=
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<p>So I wonder if anyone in the 1920s or 1930s<u> caught on movie
film</u> the moment of impact between a genuine cav charge and
pole weapons?=C2=A0 (Maybe during The River War, or the breakup of th=
e
Austo-Hungarian Empire or a Russian invasion of Turkey?)=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
What
really happens?=C2=A0 I wouldn't trust written accounts from the
cavalry era(s) --- due to viewpoint problems.=C2=A0 (Herald: "Th=
en our
stalwart yeomanry did withstand the enemy charge!" [real world:
60% casualties among the pikemen, go get more yeoman before your
next battle]).=C2=A0 <br>
</p>
<p>My most vivid "memories" of it are... TLOTR: Peter Jackson=
has
the Rohirrim pretty much pancake the poor orcs twice: Helm's Deep
and Minis Tirith.=C2=A0 OTOH, the USMC claimed into the 1910's at=
least
(had an elderly relative) that they were stoic enough to stop a
cav charge just with mounted bayonets and discipline.=C2=A0=C2=A0 See=
ms like
good fiction or poor memories are all we have to go on.=C2=A0 Someone
here know of some original source material?=C2=A0 <br>
</p></div><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
<p>-- Craig<br>
</p>
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