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Re: seeing through an image or illusion's eyes?

I always played it the wizard can see but just as well as he does, so if he was nearsighted he could see a big blob moving but he couldn't tell it was a dragon until he got close.  So an illusion could look around a corner but wouldn't pick up hidden things (in shadow, blocked or invisible) and would not have mage sight even if the wizard did.

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------ Original Message ------
Received: 10:16 AM PDT, 07/09/2019
From: Joe Hartley <jh@brainiac.com>
To: tft@brainiac.com
Subject: Re: seeing through an image or illusion's eyes?

On Tue, 9 Jul 2019 09:45:35 -0700
PvK <pvk@oz.net> wrote:

> That is part of the argument, yes, but there's also RAW confusion because of the line somewhere where it says illusions behave as the wizard thinks the world exists, not as it actually is.

I had a discussion over this decades ago, using the case of an illusion going
around a corner that the wizard hadn't yet gone around himself. With no other
magic in play, the illusion lacks the optic wetware to actually see anything,
so if the wizard hadn't yet seen/sensed that dragon in wait, he's not going to
be able to see the dragon.

It seems to make using that sort of mechanism rather worthless, and no one
ever bothered with it in that group again.

> And also unclear about whether an illusion of an owl would see well in the dark if the wizard didn't have Dark Vision or Mage Sight cast on himself.

Same as above, the illusion would only have the same vision capabilities as
the wizard.

That's how we played it back in the day, anyway.

Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant - jh@brainiac.com
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