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Dan writes . . .
>>>>>>>Success with a talent is also dependent on whatever attribute is
>>>>>>>against for typical tasks.  (Of course, this is a slight weakness in
>>>>>>>rules (reality-wise) that we've all learned to live with.)

I'm not trying to start anything, but I'm curious - why do you consider
this a weakness? 

>>>>>>>   Nowhere in ITL does it allow characters to have talents for free
>>>>>>>because a particular talent is associated with the society in which
>>>>>>>live.  For example, the average medieval society in a campaign world
is an
>>>>>>>agrarian one, with many people knowing Farming (a talent associated
with the
>>>>>>>society in which they live); but nowhere in the rules does it say
>>>>>>>should get it for free.  Note the many mundane talents listed in
ITL, p.
>>>>>>>13 -- each one with an IQ point cost.
>>>>>>>   For your modern example: I would expect a character to pay 1 IQ
point for
>>>>>>>Driving if he wants to be an average competant driver, even if he
were not a
>>>>>>>/professional/ driver (such as a taxi driver).  There's no such
thing as
>>>>>>>"Everyman Skills" like in Hero System.
>>>>>>>   I agree with everything else.

Well this is an interesting point of contention. Because EVERY 'skill' roll
is based on your attributes - even if you don't have any talent and the GM
gives you a penalty for attempting something, you technically still should
be able to try.... (I personally use the rules from Ron Pehr's Superheroes
in TFT article)...

>>>>>>>>Michael writes . . .
>>>>>>>>>This part I don't understand. I thought with adjIQ, you merely
used 2
>>>>>>>>>"talent slots" *instead* of an IQ point and therefore didn't have
>>>>>>>>>advantage over someone who simply took the IQ instead?
>>>>>>>>   Each attribute point spent on "adjIQ" increases a figure's total
>>>>>>>>points by 2.  So a figure with an IQ of 10 (and thus 10 IQ points)
can spend
>>>>>>>>1 attribute point for another 2 IQ points, giving him 12 IQ points
to spend
>>>>>>>>on talents, etc.  His actual IQ remains 10.  The IQ point costs for
>>>>>>>>spells, and languages do not change.
>>>>>>>>   I thought this was described pretty clearly, but I'll take
another look
>>>>>>>>at it.  I think maybe it could be written a bit better.

No, this is the way I thought of it. I just seems like someone implied this
was some sort of unfair advantage. It doesn't really seem so to me.
Considering the IQ 12 person has a much better chance to make their IQ
rolls, they are in fact *better* at their 'fewer' talents than the IQ 10
guy. Seems pretty balanced to me.....

>>>>>>>>But perhaps "IQ Points" would be even better -- it describes
>>>>>>>>what has been modified, and the term is already in wide use and
defined in
>>>>>>>>the rules.

Personally, I prefer "Knowledge Points", as in "points spent for what you
know". Memory requires an IQ roll, so that doesn't work. "Skill Points"
doesnt work fo me because TFT doesn't really have "skills". The Talents are
much 'broader' in scope (Theif being the obvious example). IQ points seems
like it could refer to 'either'. 


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