Re: (TFT) Strength of Stone --> Give stone armor!

[pvk@oz.net]

I'll have to reference ITL again to remember for sure, but my vague memory
is that ... oh, wait, you guys aren't being fooled by the rule for
blasting walls created by the Create Wall spell, are you?

My memory on this point is dim, but is telling me there was a Q&A entry
where it was explained there was a rule from Wizard where lightning can
blast through magic walls easily, but that's different from trying to
tunnel through real walls.

At any rate, I seem to remember it being the case that Open Tunnel was
more efficient that using lightning - whether that was a house rule or
not, I don't remember.

Also, the point is well taken that a breaking a real wall doesn't remove
the stone - it just breaks it.

PvK


> Just saying what I do,
>
> Is it so bad that stone has 100 ST / cm?  Fundamentally
> the question is, is this something that needs to be
> changed?  What would be the most fun?
>
> What does the list feel?  Is tunneling too easy?
>
> Rick
>
>
> On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 06:08, ErolB1@aol.com wrote:
>> In a message dated 2/16/2005 1:26:36 AM Central Standard Time,
>> rsmith@lightspeed.ca writes:
>>
>> > What I do is give stone 4 to 6 points of armor
>> > depending on how hard it is.  This armor stops
>> > damage BEFORE the tunneling rules kick in.  That
>> > slows tunneling a little bit, but big blasts
>> > pretty much ignore armor.
>>
>> Yes, that's what I do, too. And what I SAID I did: "If I give a stone
>> door or
>> wall 4 points of armor..."
>>
>> ... Even so I *still* need to give the stone door around 100 St per cm
>> thickness if I'm to keep the tunneling rate down to about that given in
>> the book.
>> Without this armor, the stone needs to be around 180 St per cm
>> thickness.
>>
>> And even if I assume that missile spells ignore the 4 pt armor of stone,
>> they
>> still have to do 200-500x normal damage vs stone to get the "book"
>> tunneling
>> rates.
>>
>> Erol K. Bayburt
>> Evil Genius for a Better Tomorrow
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