Re: (TFT) Security Station

[pvk@oz.net]

If it really is abandoned, and it seems to be so, then I'd say it should
be freely distributed.

However I would also say that it is just as valid (or even more valid) for
someone to post these, even the versions IMPRINT offers after getting them
from whatever source, as a free download.

(That's even accepting the current copyright laws. Of course, I'd also say
that copyright and "IP" are wrong-minded themselves and should be
abolished in favor of free information sharing and a new system for
rewarding content creators, but that's another story.)

PvK

On Thu, January 12, 2006 7:39 am, Eric Coles wrote:
> Why?  The only one who can or should enforce this one is the copyright
> holder.  Everyone here has been wondering what happened with that.  If Mr.
> Taylor is willing to chance legal action to bring the actual copyright
> holder out of the shadows, more power to him IMHO.
>
> Best,
>
> Eric
>
>
> At 10:09 AM 1/12/2006, you wrote:
>>Mr. Ian Taylor of IMPRINT said in his letter that if the TFT material
>>was not really abandoned, he'd take it off of his web site.  If
>>someone who knows for certain that he's breaking the rules were to
>>write to him at avalon@ois.com.au and tell him, I think he'd do the
>>right thing.
>>
>>--Scott
>>
>>On Jan 11, 2006, at 9:28 PM, Peter von Kleinsmid wrote:
>>
>>>I assume the copyright holder needs to come forward and complain
>>>though for anything to happen, no?
>>>
>>>At 05:38 PM 1/11/06 -0500, Joe Hartley wrote:
>>>>On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:23:18 -0800 (PST)
>>>>Christopher Fuhrman <fuhrman8or@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > The issue with TFT redistribution for a fee is obviously whether
>>>> > "abandoned" games are public domain.
>>>>
>>>>I've done _way_ too much research into this, and learned that at
>>>>least in terms of printed materials, they cannot be "abandoned".  A
>>>>copyright can expire, though the term of copyright is now greatly
>>>>extended
>>>>thanks to Diznee's coercion of the US gubmint.
>>>>
>>>>Someone, or some legal entity out there, owns the copyrights on
>>>>all the
>>>>TFT stuff, and just because the works are not actively in print, the
>>>>owner still has all the rights to it.
>>>>
>>>>This is in direct contrast to trademarks, which must be actively
>>>>enforced by the holder lest they lose them - ask me about my
>>>>domain name
>>>>sometime!
>>>>
>>>>My guess is that Imprint is just hoping they don't get caught.
>>>>
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