Re: (TFT) Exp

["Jay Carlisle" <selfinflicted_wounds@boardermail.com>]

0pt char. = sperm/egg

1-2pt char. = premie (1st pt MUST be in STR)

3pt char. = infant (STR1, DX1, IQ1)

6pt char. = 1yr old

9pt char. = 2yr old

12pt char. = 3yr old

15pt char. = 4yr old

17pt char. = 5yr old

18pt char. = 6yr old

19pt char. = 7yr old

20pt char. = 8yr old

21pt char. = 9yr old

22pt char. = 10yr old
(and one per year until)
32pt char. = 20yr old

  May I quote here?

TFT ITL AGING pg. 32

"You may assume that a character is 20 years old when he enters play."

> = 36  = 500exp 1st level

37 - 40 = 1500exp 2nd level

41 - 45 = 6500exp 3rd

46 - 50 = 21,500exp 4th (WL)

51 - 55 = 46,500exp 5th

56 - 60 = 96,500exp 6th

61 - 65 = 196,500exp 7th (X2)

66 - 70 = 396,500exp 8th

71 - 75 = 796,500exp 9th

76 - 80 = 1,596,500exp 10th

81 - 85 = 3,196,500exp 11th

86 - 90 = 6,396,500exp 12th

91 - 95 = 12,796,500exp 13th

96 - 100 = 25,596,500exp 14th level (X3)

That's well over a million Joes on the floor for a 100pt char.
This is not unheard of in history but rather that explore that sad
avenue let's turn our thoughts rather to fame.

I'm somewhat arbatrairily calling Joe 22exp. Of course this is 
arguable (more in Units) but the idea here is that by ITL Exp a 
Melee figure in combat to the death basicly gets X2exp.
I don't find this an inconsistancy. Why? Fame.
The victory was scored in an ARENA. Why not a X2 bonus?
On the flip side if no one sees you slay the mighty Tiamat in the "frozen wastes of Endor" (you ate all the minstrals remember?) their just gonna call you a Loon. 1/2 exp? Boy that'd be discouraging to the pure 
exp pt hunter. (as evidenced by the "I killed a 7hex dragon in the Gargoyle Mountains and all I got was a lousy 60pts" T-shirts now being offered in Newdelves merchant quarter.)

(I ment to go with mountian man analogy there, THANKS pvk. See what you did? lol)

well if there is a 1/2 exp penalty are there ways of shucking it?
rather than speak of scalping how about this?
I suggest that at about 5th level... I mean between 51 to 55pts  a figure starts to get a reputation.
By 76 to 80pts (10th level) a figure is famous (infamous? get blamed for other badness?) If my 
memory serves this was the level that PCs in D&D had to do stuff like build keeps et al

I also have a note that says 60 is a cap.
I reached back into my portable hole to pull that one out (doubled Mr. Jacksons 30ST max suggestion)
but the rest shows where I'm trying to get to with the idea

'beyond this point a players stats serve only to determine fine differences between masters (etc.)

I think that quote from Steven Levy's "Hackers" book says it best, this is something "akin to the courting of the bitch goddess of disaster".

sigh

The next bit gets into how to get into really large chuncks of exp. REALLY large. If you wanna play a Monren ya gotta go BIG! And no I don't mean the monsters. Monren KIDS learn how to play with cusp events in the multiverses varied timelines. (what many call Cidri) Older children wipe each other out of given timelines entirely. You don't even wanna know what entertainments the elders indulged in during 'the decadance'

Fact: Had the Pitorian guard not taken Claudius bribe Caligulas line would have ended. Instead Claudius got a good reaction and Rome got Nero.


> 
> from;
> TFT Fantasy Masters Screen
> 
> Experience Table
> 
> > = 36  = 125
> 37 - 40 = 250
> 41 - 45 = 1000
> 46 - 50 = 3000
> 51 - 55 = 5000
> each 5 = X2 prev
> 
> REVISED Experience Table
> (players pissed?)
> > = 35  = 125
> 36 - 39 = 250
> 40 - 43 = 500
> 44 - 47 = 1000
> 48 - 51 = 2000
> each 4 = X2 prev
> 
> 
> Melee
> 
> To the death
> 
> 50 exp to survivors
> +20 exp if enemy avg >+3 in attributes
> 
> Practice
> 
> 10 exp to winners
> 
> When a figure gets 100 exp he/she may "trade them in" for one 
> additional (att pt.)
> 
> 
> TFT ITL has this to say
> 
> Experience points are awarded by the GM whenever a 
> character(figure) does something "well".
> 
> FOR COMBAT: One experience point for every hit of damage you put on a foe,....
> (1exp for one-hit nuisance and +5exp for killing blow on STR 2or3 
> nuisance) {???}
> (killing blow gets points equal to that foe's basic DX.)
> 
> FOR CASTING SPELLS: 1exp for each point of ST used casting "in a 
> presure situation"
> 
> FOR DIE ROLLS:
> 10exp for 4-die roll
> 20exp for 5-die roll
> 30exp for 6-die roll
> etc....
> 
> FOR TIME SPENT IN PLAY: Each hour of real time spent in play is worth 5exp
> 
> GAME MASTER'S DISCRETION: (anybody check out the "Bride of the 
> Portable Hole Full of Beer"
> character class 'Self-aware PC'? funny stuff!)
> 
> Also the article
> The Space Gamer No. 29, July 1980
> with Mr. Jacksons eratta mentions that he was frustrated with D&D and...
> "So I did something about it."
> 
> I mention this last to establish a thought. While something like 
> this bazar blend of art, science and
> pop culture can never be "reverse enginered" I feel that any effort 
> to maintain the spirit of the game
> when advocating the addition of materal can't be hurt by going back 
> to the source as much as
> possable. So after saying that bombastic bull let me say this.
> 
> I've come to the opinion (not dearly held) that the Exp tables are 
> reminisent of "Levels" in D&D.
> an example.
> Joe Average becomes a PC
> ST16 DX8 IQ8 = 32pts
> "Where doya keep da RATS!?"
> 500exp (Rats) later      {won't this piss off the ambush farmers?}
> ST20 DX8 IQ8 = 36pts
> "Roight! Where's da children? I MEAN SLIMES? Where's dem slimes?"
> 1000exp (50 ST15 red slimes, better buy a club)
> ST24 DX8 IQ8 = 40pts
> 
> so forth and so on. hack, bleed, hack, bleed
> 
> ST29 DX8 IQ8 = 45pts and 6500exp to get there
> +3000exp and we max Joe for 500rats shy of ten-thousand as a 46pt 
> figure. 2 wishes left to spend
> thankyouSJ.
> 
> I'll get back to this in a moment but here's where I dis on the revised table
> 
> METAGAMING
> 
> March 31, 1980
> 
> Andy Windes
> 
> Dear Andy,
> 
>    I usually don't have time to answer many letters now.  However, your
> views are similar enough to mine on several points and it seems good to
> say 'I agree' sometimes as well as the 'I disagree' letters I often
> write instead.
> 
>   TFT is too complicated as completed by Steve Jackson.  He completed the
> project as he wished, not as I'd hoped or even laid down constraints.
> But, when we'd stuck out our necks so far on TFT and were so committed
> we had no choice but to go with what we got.  I think the system is
> better than D&D, but not by a huge margin.  All the material in Advanced
> Melee and Advanced Wizard didn't need to be added at all.  More spells
> and weapons fine, more detail of combat, no.
> 
>    My feeling is that in the extra two years of work TFT got longer
> instead of better.  I'm having work started no (sic) on a new FRP system
> that can be introduced in 3-4 years and is closer to what I think the
> market wants and what I'll feel comfortable in publishing.
> 
>    That's the reality of publishing.  Sometimes you have to publish what
> you've got when it's good but not perfect.  Without new products we go
> out of business.
> 
>    On the micros I feel our error was in having too many micros of the
> same type come out one right after the other.  If we'd sprinkled in some
> history, fantasy and some odd-ball themes it wouldn't have looked so
> dull.  At least I hope that's the case.
> 
>    I hope we can avoid publishing real clinkers. (sic)  I know we will
> put out games some don't like at times.  But, the effort in doing
> quality pays off in dollars.  Our stuff sells good years after
> introduction.  Some of the other firms see their stuff die after six
> months.  Quality and effort does pay, it just isn't always possible.
> 
> Good Gaming,
> <signed>
> Howard Thompson
> 
> BOX 15346, AUSTIN, TX  78761
> 
> 
> --
> 
>   From the Microgame HQ Archives
>    http://www.brainiac.com/micro/archives.html  (also where the 
> errata came from I believe
> Thanks Mr. Slocum and secertary! sorry for lack of proper credit)
> 
> Also from the errata
> "All of these would be booklets only; those components which could 
> not be printed in the books would be omitted. No counters or REF 
> SHIELD..."
> "May 1980: I concluded an agreement with Howard Thompson, whereby 
> Metagaming gained all my remaining copyrights to the TFT material."
> 
> 'MY' TFT FMS has a copyright of 1981
> I know, I know... that settles nothing. But it sure makes me wonder 
> about who had their fingers in the Revised
> Table pie after Mr. Jacksons departure?
> 


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