Re: (TFT) Rules?

["Jay Carlisle" <Jay_Carlisle@charter.net>]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joey Beutel"
Subject: Re: (TFT) Rules?


> I'd actually argue that the "social contract" and problem solving are
> far more important, to the exclusion of control and competition as
> part of what defines a game.
>
> Control and Competition really only come up if they are part of the
> nature of the social contract and problem solving.

Just WOW!
Would but I could voice my thoughts half as well.
VERY interesting to me how often we agree, not to say that where we disagree 
isn't interesting either.


> Thats basically the two opposite extremes of role playing, IMO, and
> basically is the reason that RPGs  are fun. With the free reign of the
> imagination, groups are capable of defining their own terms of play.
> This is why discussing these two sides of RPGs on this email group is
> really the main thing- Jay presenting his rules ideas and asking about
> applying it to real world physics to get the right answer, with others
> asking about ideas for what a group of dragons should be called (the
> best example, as recently this group has been dominated by Jay.... not
> too many others seem to be reading anymore =(

I am kindda "bloging" the list... but I am trying to work toward a group of 
adventures that I can present in a standard (free then hopefully cheep) 
format that is at least vaguely readable instead of a bunch of Jay shorthand 
and jargon.
I surely hope that folks don't think that I'm trying to CONTROL the list!
That's the Dark Lords job...
As you say;
"Why competition? so that you have two halfs of the puzzle being made at 
once, and so that the halves contradict each other- solving the puzzle in 
favor of the side you create is the whole point."
and the Dark Lord can only exist if there are players to oppose.

What controls would you give a Cidri King?
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