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Re: (TFT) Chainmail and Plate armour DX adjustement inconsistencies (was Rule clarification)

Here is the version I speak of:

http://bluwiki.com/go/Tft-melee
Which is the exact same one I have in hard-copy that I purchased (in 1981). Although the web link above does not have page numbers you can find the details under the relevant sections.
Page 10, under the section "ATTACKER'S ARMOUR, SHIELD, ETC." has Chainmail at -3 DX and Plate armour at -5 DX. 

Page 13, under "ARMOUR" has Chainmail at -4 DX and Plate armour at -6 DX.
Page 20, "COMBAT EXAMPLE" uses an example that implicitly indicates Chainmail at -4 DX (since chainmail + large shield drops DX by 5).
Page 22, "DX ADJUSTMENTS FOR YOUR ARMOUR AND SHIELD" has Chainmail at -3 DX and Plate armour at -5 DX.
As mentioned, we play -3 & -5 for simplicity (then it's the same as hits/attack) and matches leather armour (-2DX/-2hpa)
----- Original Message ----- From: "PvK" <pvk@oz.net> 
To: <tft@brainiac.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: (TFT) Rule clarification



Must be a pretty old version of Melee to have chainmail at -4DX.
The only TFT Plate I've ever seen at -5DX is Half Plate (Advanced
Melee and ITL), which only stops 4 points per attack.

In other words, having seen many many many sources of TFT armor
values, standard chain and plate are -3DX and -6DX. I don't recall
ever seeing -4DX or -5DX for those (except Fine Plate at -4DX, and
I do think maybe I remember someone saying some old crusty original
version of Melee had chainmail at -4DX, but that's just a curiosity
to me, not a rival rule possibility, though surely some culture
could have inferior chainmail-making techiques if the GM wanted it
that way,

--- brad@longbrothers.net wrote:

From: "Brad Long" <brad@longbrothers.net>
To: <tft@brainiac.com>
Subject: Re: (TFT) Rule clarification
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 21:07:22 +1000
Stating the obvious(?) but in the original Melee rules it mentions Plate -6 
to DX and Chainmail -4 to DX and the combat example in the rules also uses
this data, BUT at a later point in the rules it mentions Plate -5 to DX and 
Chainmail -3 to DX.

We have always played the second version.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Long" <brad@longbrothers.net> 
To: <tft@brainiac.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: (TFT) A Point of Damage




Thanks for the challenge David.

My analysis of this is that Orc 1 CAN set vs. charge against Broadsword.

At the beginning of the turn in question, Orc 1 is engaged, Broadsword is
disengaged.

Now Orc 1 turns to face Broadsword.

"If a figure with a pole weapon stays in the same hex, with or without a
facing change, on the turn an enemy figure charge attacks him ..."

Broadsword, although he didn't move, went from disengaged to engaged
during the movement phase and intends to attack this round, and therefore
is counted as a "CHARGE AND ATTACK". Hence, Orc 1 can set vs. charge
attack.

Did I get it right?

On another point - showing my ignorance - why did Broadsword need to
disengage in the prior round if the figure he was engaged with died before 
Broadsword had his attack?
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Michael Grouchy II" <david_michael_grouchy_ii@hotmail.com> 
To: "mailing list" <tft@brainiac.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 10:41 PM
Subject: RE: (TFT) A Point of Damage



Welcome Brad.


Here is a link to General Test of Melee Knowledge Number I

http://tft.brainiac.com/archive/0112/msg00073.html

from all the way back in December of 2001.


In case anyone
else hasn't
seen it.

:)
David Grouchy
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