Re: (TFT) How good is 32 points?

[Rick Smith <rsmith@lightspeed.ca>]

In GURPS it takes ~20 character points to raise an
attribute or 1 to 4 points to raise a talent.  I 
don't think I would EVER improve a talent if it 
cost a full attribute, to say nothing about 2 or
3 times an attribute.

If one attribute bought 5 or 6 talent points, I
would consider it.  (Higher levels of talents 
might take 2 or 3 talent points.)

Warm regards, Rick

On Wed, 2012-30-05 at 11:00 +0000, Chris Nicole wrote:
> So far the idea is untested.
> None of my players got to the point where they wanted to spend Exp on
> improving their talents rather than improving their attributes.
> Also, I'm not at all sure how such high level players would earn enough
> experience for multiple levels in a talent under TFT rules.
> 
> We had only one player character with 40+ Attribute total.
> 
> When they get to the point where they need 1000+ Exp to improve an
> atribute, then it may be worth-while using some of those Exp to improve
> a talent or spell.
> 
> You could also increase the cost for improved levels in a talent.
> +1 same cost as obtaining the talent;
> +2 double cost;
> +3 triple cost...
> 
> There was also an option to modify the cost of a talent/spell by the IQ
> of the character.
> This would also let a character acquire a talent higher than their IQ at
> a considerable cost in Exp.
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Chris
> 
> -- 
>   Chris Nicole
>   chris_nicole@operamail.com
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 25, 2012, at 02:35 PM, raito@raito.com wrote:
> > > Also, I let characters improve a talent or spell they already know.
> > > This is most effective for weapon talents.
> > > e.g. a single level of improvement; Axe / Mace +1 gives the PC +1 to hit
> > > and damage (and parry/block too).
> > 
> > This is eventually unbalancing, as those +1's accumulate over time. If I
> > only ever use a particular weapon, I may as well spend my 140 pts. in
> > levels after a point, and make that mace do 2D6-1 + all my levels. Not to
> > mention that eventually armour becomes nearly useless. there's a reason
> > that the later attribute points cost more XP.
> > 
> > (And yes, eventually under stock rules,. you're better off using a club
> > as
> > the damage is based on ST)
> > 
> > (And if you're buying lots of levels with a weapon, you're spending too
> > much time fighting...)
> > 
> > I allow Fencing on most melee weapon talents as a higher level of skill.
> > 
> > Mostly, I don't think that charcters need vast lists of Talents or
> > Spells.
> > If they need that, then it's clear that they play the character sheet,
> > and
> > not the character (one of the problems with most DND).
> > 
> > It's my feeling that the stock rules allow for a very great variation in
> > characters as it is, without having to let them have piles of different
> > skills. It's quite possible to have great characters with 4 or 5
> > Talents/Spells.
> > 
> > That said, I'd certainly entertain the idea of having a chatacter
> > research
> > a Talent that uses a weapon better.
> > 
> > Neil Gilmore
> > raito@raito.com
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