Re: (TFT) But I want to charge with my javelin...

[Joey Beutel <mejobo@comcast.net>]

I agree with this mostly. The main problem, IMO, with TFT combat is that wounds heal too slowly; if you're a fighter you pretty much get one combat and then you have to rest for a month. The whole system makes a  bit more sense if ST losses are a bit more like fatigue (with some level of actual damage mixed in).
On Mar 5, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Joel BoardgameRpger wrote:

> one slightly descending opinion  :)
> 
> I think shields work well in TFT because of the balencing act you navigate
> through the character weight and dex constraints during character creation.
> 
> Shields are quite heavy as you go up in shield class, and reduce the
> precious damage points buy 1 or 2 or even 3. So why is that good?
> 
> Because the average die rolls 3.5, and if youve got 2 or 3 point armor, on
> the average you are negating half the damage. While that 2 or 3 point armor
> with the extra point of shield, wont save you from the 2+2 or 3d weapon,
> That little sliver of hit point savings may or may not bring you into the
> next round of combat. Lets face it TFT combat is deadly.  Ive never been a
> fan of Gurps blocking because it almost never happens.  I think the dex to
> block roll is 7 or 8 which is very hard to do.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:03 PM, John linzy <juzjohn@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> And here I was thinking that it was because a shield in TFT only
>> subtracted a couple of hits from an attack and didn't allow you to block it
>> completely like GURPS..... :-)
>> 
>> John
>> Sent from my iPad
>> Please excuse my typing
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 8:29 PM, raito@raito.com wrote:
>> 
>>> Armour is under powered in general. There are accounts from the 1420's
>>> bemoaning the fact that rich young guys don't bother learning to parry,
>>> because 2 handed weapons don't injure through good armour. So the entire
>>> system is off. It's just a mechanic, and I've gotten over it.
>>> 
>>> If the historical accounts are accurate, plate should be proof against
>>> pretty much every weapon, except on double and triple damage, and then
>> the
>>> weapon should only do normal damage against the armour's protection. The
>>> rub is that defeating armour is possible, but the techniques aren't what
>>> you think they are, based more on wrestling than striking with the
>> weapon.
>>> 
>>> Historically, shields fell out of favor due to advances in armour. By the
>>> 1300's they were on their way out for foot combat, replaced by the
>> pollaxe
>>> and the like. A hundred years later pollaxe was seen as vigorous execise,
>>> and not very dangerous. This led to an increase in grappling techniques
>>> (which TFT is also weak at). Look up a translation of Jeu de la Hache for
>>> an example of an armoured combat martial art. Or look up Fiore de Liberi
>>> for examples of unarmed and armed arts.
>>> 
>>> TFT is greatly simplified.
>>> 
>>> Neil Gilmore
>>> raito@raito.com
>>> 
>>>> Is it just me, or are shields comparatively underpowered? Considering
>>>> how widespread they were in various militaries throughout the world, and
>>>> how widespread they aren't among player-characters, it seems like
>>>> something's off.
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