Re: (TFT) Man To Man & GURPS - was Re: (TFT) The return of Ogre - Rick did something silly.

["gem6868" <gem6868@verizon.net>]

I actually have GURPS buried somewhere.
I guess the value is that you played for several years a game that cost 
nearly nothing and had limited parameters.  Ultimately, you were going to 
break the system with playing it to the max.

I probably am just fine with the basic versions for now, as it's really "The 
Nostalgia Trip" for me.  Eventually I may tinker with Advanced, or just use 
it as a basic combat game with the two where I set parameters for people to 
play it out in games I throw.

Thanks for the comments tho', all very helpful!

-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter von Kleinsmid
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 8:57 PM
To: tft@brainiac.com
Subject: (TFT) Man To Man & GURPS - was Re: (TFT) The return of Ogre - Rick 
did something silly.

Gamers all have different tastes, and those of us who subscribe to
this email list all like and are still interested in TFT. I'm one of
the few who also really likes GURPS and actually prefers it in many
ways, so I'll chime in on the question of whether Man To Man is an 
improvement.

When Man To Man first came out, my friends and I who had played TFT
for several years were getting dissatisfied with it because we knew
it so well that it seemed too familiar and gamey and predictable for
our personal tastes. And the characters we had who'd survived years
of play were breaking some of the system - one guy had enough armor,
DX and damage than many people had little chance of hurting him, and
another would drill people in the head with a crossbow almost always,
etc. So we were making some heavy house rules, really designing a new
game, to provide what we thought we wanted at that point, and that
stalled our games and was taking a lot of time and making something
very unplayable.

Man To Man was almost perfect for us. It provided almost everything
we wanted, and felt close to TFT, though it was just melee and no
mental abilities or anything. It was the first draft of GURPS combat,
and isn't all that far off from later editions of GURPS combat, but
it did put all the combat rules in one place. It had active defenses,
a good variety of different equipment effects and tactics, and had
much more chaotic and unpredictable combats. It was quite a few more
years before I started feeling the desire to add house rules to
GURPS. And, the latest version of GURPS actually included a number of
my house rules, without making it more complex in those ways (though
they did make the books very long and complex by adding almost every
possible thing from every worldbook, more or less).

So for players who are into the detail of combat, it's great, but few
besides me who have those tastes are still hanging out on the TFT
email list. ;-)

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