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Re: (TFT) Revised HTH rules - Rob's comments. Is HTH needed?
Hi Rick,
First I love reading your stuff whether I use it or not. Seeing things
from another viewpoint with well thought out explanations for why you did
something is always worth the read.
My characters generally have the running talent so their MA is higher so
they can avoid HTH.
HTH is useful in fantasy because you see it or read about it in a charac
ters adventures. Robinhood's men capturing Sir Guy in Sherwood comes to
mind (Errol Flynn version of course). Conan fighting the giant snake and
many others.
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------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:07 PM PST, 01/19/2016
From: Rick Smith <rick_ww@lightspeed.ca>
To: tft@brainiac.com
Subject: (TFT) Revised HTH rules - Rob's comments. Is HTH needed?
Hi Rob,
Thank you for the kind words. The fact that some people use some
of my stuff is what makes it worthwhile.
I thought that Orcslayer was a fun module. Never ran it tho. :(
I encourage you to customize the game to suit your tastes and the
people you play with. In particular, it is important to start with
a
simple rule set. (I find that as people master the base rules, the
y
are more eager to add a bit more complexity. The trick is to add
the complexity which deepens the experience and is not just
complexity for complexities sake.)
I think that TFT will work perfectly well without HTH. It is inten
ded
to make the game more realistic by adding wrestling, but you
certainly could have a heroic adventure with out it. That said, we
never turned figure in HTH upside down (we reserved that for dead
or unconscious figures). Having two enemy in the same hex was
enough to remind us that those characters were in HTH.
I am guessing that you turn upside down characters who have
fallen. I would suggest not doing that. We used to use a little
hematite counter to show fallen figures, but lately, we just remem
ber.
(Usually their are not too many of them.) Alternately, you could h
ave
fallen figures face towards any hex spine (but ideally a hex spine
away from the enemy) to show that they are prone. This would save
you a bunch of flipping counters face up and face down.
As now published, the Rune Stone rules give a bit of variety
magically to the terrain. I am a big fan of terrain, it helps to m
ake
this fight different from that fight. A tactic which worked fine t
he
last 6 fights, now, is not so good. Variety is the spice of life,
after
all.
However, when I put up my rules for Environmental Magics in TFT,
the Rune Stones will become far more useful and important. This
will likely be a while, Environmental magics will take more work t
o
get ready for prime time.
Warm regards, Rick.
On 2016-01-19, at 10:33 AM, Robert Ward wrote:
> Hello Rick
> Never feel your words are dropping into a black hole. I can say
for
> certain that I read and enjoy them. I don't get to play TFT as o
ften as
> I'd like, and with some very young players (including some brigh
t 10-12
> yr olds) not a lot of opportunities yet for introducing variatio
ns.
> They're just starting to get up to speed with spells.
>
> But for example, a few weeks ago, we ran a giant melee in front
of a
> castle wall (running the old Orcslayer module). If I had read yo
ur rune
> stone rules earlier, I would have incorporated some of those eff
ects,
> just to illustrate that the (simulated) world contains, or used
to
> contain, wonders and powers that the players can't yet understan
d. One
> change I did incorporate was the more powerful Ward spell.
>
> So that's point (A). Point (B) is that it's inspiring to see you
r
> creations whether I use them or not. For example, I have never l
iked the
> HTH rules. Or maybe more exactly, I have never liked HTH combat.
The
> counters flip over and the map becomes lifeless. The zones of co
ntrol,
> or facing rules, that make melees so tactical and war-gamy, disa
ppear.
> So reading some of your changes makes me think about how I might
change
> things myself, maybe just to eliminate it altogether. But whatev
er, as I
> say it is great to see someone thinking about thoughtful changes
and
> additions.
>
> Keep em coming!
> Rob
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Rick Smith wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> I've posted my HTH rules on Joe's website. They can be found he
re....
>>
>>
>> http://tft.brainiac.com/RicksTFT/Fighting/HTH_InTFT.html
>>
>>
>> I've attempted to keep the rules about as complex as the origin
al
>> HTH rules, make them more logical, and improve play balance.
>> Your comments are welcome.
>>
>> Warm regards, Rick.
>>
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