Re: Jay's spamming the list. <-- Useful subject line makes it easy to delete what you don't care about.

Ok - I'm confused... I am jay_moles@yahoo.com, and this is the first email I have sent to this list. I activated the ist when I found the TFT resources back many-many moons ago.

But, I have never sent an email to this list.

Whoever has -accessed- or hacked my email (maybe that YAHOO hack just announced?) - it isn't me.

That said, for everyone's sake, please go ahead and remove the jay_moles@yahoo.com address.

If anyone was offended by any statements made in my name, i regret them and extend an apology that some fiend/fool is smearing my name and causing problems.

On Thursday, October 13, 2016 11:45 AM, Cris Fuhrman <fuhrmanator@gmail.com> wrote:

Time to define the TL;DR (IQ:8) talent with prereq of Literacy? ;-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TL;DR

On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Jeffrey Vandine <jlv61560@yahoo.com> wrote:

Yeah, that's where I am as well. I think in all the years that I've been on this list there was actually one post that had something to say that was both relevant and meaningful...for the rest, it's a brief scan and then delete. As Rick noted, if he can't be bothered to write coherently, then I can't be bothered to read it.

From: Edward Kroeten <ekroeten@farmersagent.com>
To: tft@brainiac.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:06 PM

Subject: Re: Jay's spamming the list. <-- Useful subject line makes it easy to delete what you don't care about.

As far as I have been able to tell this is just how Jay is. It doesn't appear to be an act, I have tried to discern what he is saying some of the time, however if it is more than a 2 or 3 inches of text (he isn't much for paragraphs or punctuation) I give up.

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------ Original Message ------
Received: 04:57 PM PDT, 10/12/2016
From: "Tom Ellis" <trellis66@verizon.net>
To: <tft@brainiac.com>
Subject: Re: Jay's spamming the list. <-- Useful subject line makes it easy to delete what you don't care about.

It is easy to filter or delete emails, too.

From: tft-owner@brainiac.com [mailto:tft-owner@brainiac.com ] On Behalf Of Rick Smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:44 PM
To: tft@brainiac.com
Subject: Jay's spamming the list. <-- Useful subject line makes it easy to delete what you don't care about.

Hi all,

To some extent spam is in the eye of the beholder. If I were to

receive an email saying that a new book on terraforming was now

being published - it would not be spam to me, but I am sure that

most of you would think it spam.

Matt felt that Jay's incomprehensible ramblings (and various snarky

comments on them) were a waste of his time and so quit the list.

As for can spam be art... I think not. The essence of art is

communicating something to the audience. When I was writing the

design for the Computer Game, "Total Annihilation", I decided that I

wanted to communicate, in a simple form, the essence of combined

arms and military tactics. I feel that the game succeeded because

that aspect of the communication came thru the design & development.

An artist who's art moves no one; who says nothing other than to irritate

others is not an artist but a vandal. (Especially if he is painting

property not his own.)

Jay's verbal diarrhoea falls in the spam category to me. It is not

worth the time to figure out and it offends me. It is hard work to

write clearly & concisely, and someone who does not bother to try,

is simply wasting everyone's time.

I delete Jay's emails unread. I should figure out how to get my

spam filter to zap his emails, but not the TFT list in general.

Jay would do better to either stop posting at all, or make an effort

to say something in a format which is worth people's time to read.

As it is, he is just teaching people to ignore him and driving people

off the list.

Warm regards, Rick.

On 2016-10-12, at 4:18 PM, David Bofinger wrote:

The categories aren't mutually exclusive. A lot of street art - tagging, for instance - is basically spam.

--

David

On 13 October 2016 at 10:07, Geof Gibson <geofgibson@mac.com> wrote:

One might also consider Jay’s incoherent ramblings a form of art.

On Oct 12, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Jeffrey Vandine <jlv61560@yahoo.com> wrote:

This basically amounts to spam...

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