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Re: [Slope: Ch 12] New Monster - Flame Fiends. Comments are welcome.



Nope.  Armor weight multipliers simply tell us how much more armor of the same type weighs for bigger creatures (who need more of it).  The reference to "*hexes*1.5-.5 for bigger" simply means that "bigger" creatures still take up one hex (1.5 - .5 = 1).  Nowhere is there any reference to them, or "reptilids" (whatever that term is supposed to actually encompass) not being pushed around like anyone else by Giants.

BTW, I note the Codex has a weight of 160Kg for Gargoyles, when the rules clearly state 150Kg, QED, the tables in the Codex have to be used with a grain of salt anyway.



From: Rick <rick_ww@lightspeed.ca>
To: "tft@brainiac.com" <tft@brainiac.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Slope: Ch 12] New Monster - Flame Fiends. Comments are welcome.

It is in the Armour / Weight Modifiers.  I can find it in the 
TFT codex, but I’m pretty sure they got it from 
somewhere else.

This is the table where you can find the mass and cost of
armor for different sized races.

I THOUGHT that the Gargoyle description in ItL said that
they were a 1.5 hex figure, but I checked that book and 
it is not there.  Must have been somewhere else.

Rick


On Jun 9, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Jeffrey Vandine <jlv61560@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Jeff,
  In TFT 1.5 hex figures are Reptilites, and Gargoyles.  They 
use a 1 hex counter, but are considered very big for for that 
hex.  Note that they have to pay more for armor.  A giant needs
two 1 hex figures to engage it, but a single 1.5 hex figure will 
engage it.

  1.5 hex figures are in TFT as written.

Nope, sorry, not in any copy of AM/AW/ITL I've found.  You're going to have to show me exactly where it says anything about "1.5" hex characters at all.



From: Rick <rick_ww@lightspeed.ca>
To: "tft@brainiac.com" <tft@brainiac.com>; "The_slope@googlegroups.com" <The_slope@googlegroups.com>; CJ <chrjames@gmail.com>; Matt Fraser <mathesonfraser@gmail.com>; Alec Morrison <alphaalec@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Slope: Ch 12] New Monster - Flame Fiends. Comments are welcome.

Hi Guys, 
  Thank you for the quick replies.  I will reply inline below...

On Jun 9, 2018, at 4:17 AM, David Bofinger <bofinger.david@gmail.com> wrote:

If the flame fiend is insubstantial and I use a fire extinguishing method like beating it with my jacket, or smothering it with a cloak, or pissing on it, what is the effect?

David

Good question. It would be unaffected, but if the fire goes 
out, it would stop regenerating.  I’ll revise my version to 
answer this.


On Jun 9, 2018, at 8:55 AM, PvK <pvk@oz.net> wrote:

An interesting form of fire demon, with some nice combat rules (though the 5-hex wants a facing diagram).

I don't follow what the last words "if it stays in its fire" refer to. The only fire hexes I noticed were randomly generated when doing a claw attack after having been attacked, and rolling a straight, or fire created with a 6-hex (?) fire spell?

Also, the claw attack says it does cutting and burning damage - does that mean the claws burn, or is it a reference to the fire hexes created when it rolls a  straight?

What can it do if engaged in HTH?

PvK

Hi Peter,
  It has 5 front hexes, 2 sides and 4 rear hexes.

  “Go Flame Like” spell was poorly worded.  I will change it 
to say that if it is in a fire (bonfire or hotter), it does regenerate.

  What I was trying to say that if you have immunity to fire 
the claws still do damage.  But it is fire damage, so if you are 
NOT immune to fire, it has the additional penalties of fire 
damage.  I’ll reword it.

  Very good question, a complete oversight on my part.  I’m 
going to say that if you are in HTH with it, it is as if you are in 
a magical fire hex.  Thanks!



On Jun 9, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Jeffrey Vandine <jlv61560@yahoo.com> wrote:

How do you depict a "1.5 hex" figure?  How do you determine its exact location?

Hi Jeff,
  In TFT 1.5 hex figures are Reptilites, and Gargoyles.  They 
use a 1 hex counter, but are considered very big for for that 
hex.  Note that they have to pay more for armor.  A giant needs
two 1 hex figures to engage it, but a single 1.5 hex figure will 
engage it.

  1.5 hex figures are in TFT as written.

***
  I’ll send out a new version in a bit that incorporates these 
questions.  Thanks everyone!

  Warm regards, Rick.