Isn't it true that all "non-wizards" get a +1 in HTH automatically? Not sure where this comes from - basic Wizard mentions a -4 in HTH combat, though I don't recollect the details. I didn't see anything in Advanced Melee that supports this. ===== Post to the entire list by writing to firstname.lastname@example.org. Unsubscribe by mailing to email@example.com with the message body "unsubscribe tft"