(TFT) Converging Notes on Paladins

[PTICHAM@aol.com]

16 March 2000

Hi ! many thanks for all your comments and suggestions ... me thinks,
things are getting clearer now for me on the Paladin ...

>>>>>In a message dated 15.03.00 20:26:13 W. Europe Standard Time, 
srydzews@ix.netcom.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's two ideas.  To stay within the "talent" 
>>>>>  concept, you could just add two talents:
>>>>>  
>>>>>    Paladin (prerequisite: Warrior and Priest) 
>>>>>    - allows some sort of healing
>>>>>  
>>>>>    Paladin II (prerequisite: Veteran and Theologian) 
>>>>>    - grants some sort of protection from supernatural 
>>>>>      evil, allows better healing

love the prerequisites, will adopt these ... 
(thanks Stan)

my revised proposal:

Paladin I  (3) - Prerequisite: IQ 15, Warrior, Priest and 
    Consecration Ritual ($ 5,000)
    - Talent as Master Physicker but heals an additional 1 point, 
        by touch, no medikit needed
    - + 1 THT  and +1 DMG to Undead creatures and Demons

Anti-Paladin I (4) - Prerequisite: IQ 15, Warrior, Priest 
    and Sacrifice Ritual ($ 5,000)
    - same in healing, but also reversible (cause damage by touch)
    - + 1 THT  and +1 DMG to ??????????

Paladin II (3) - Prerequisite: IQ 17, Veteran, Theologian and 
    Consecration Ritual ($ 5,000)
    - As above, heals another additional 1 point 
    - As above, additional +1 THT  and +1 DMG to Undead creatures 
        and Demons

Anti-Paladin II (4) - Prerequisite: IQ 17, Veteran, Theologian and 
    Sacrifice Ritual ($ 5,000)
    - As above, but also reversible (touch)
    - As above, additional +1 THT  and +1 DMG to ????????

     ? - duh, have no idea at the moment (help!!!)

why the additional point for the Anti's ? 

    - its so much easier (and fun) to be a Bad Boy !!! or Girl !!!   8-)
    - besides, the reversible (cause damage) ability should make 
        up for it ... hehehehe (aint i an evil thing)

however ...

the problem i see at the moment is that if the above are treated as 
talents, PCs will never lose them (or won't mind losing them by 
freeing up the points for another talent)  ... 
even if he/she commits something contrary to the tenets of his Pantheon
 ... hence the reason behind why the PC's have to sacrifice something in 
return for their God's blessings


ok, let's do the math on the EPs:

starting points for human characters are 32 ... by the time they reach 40
APs, they need 500 EPs per point to gain 1 attribute point ... (please 
correct me if i am wrong, am at work {its a boring and slow day today} and 
i don't have the TFT Manuals with me so i'm doing this from memory) 

to become a Paladin, they have to maintain their attribute totals at 40, 
never lower ... thus, to qualify for Paladinhood, Attribute Totals must be 
at least at 43, then and only then, can they give up 3 attribute points 
or 1,500 EPs per offering (bringing him back to the 40 AP total) ... 
conversely, for an Anti-Paladin , Attribute Totals must be 
at least at 44, then and only then, can they give up 4 attribute points 
or 2,000 EPs per offering (bringing him back to the 40 AP total) ...

if they do decide to go for the whole shabang (i.e., 5 Offerings) AND 
assuming that they concentrate all their efforts (to become ...) during 
their APs playing on the 40's range ... this means that Paladins will 
need 7,500 EPs, (10,000 EPs for Anti-Paladins), $ 25,000, continually 
prove himself worthy to the GM as well as find a High Priest willing 
to do the 5 Rituals ... 

>>>>> The other characters will be far more advanced trhan the Paladin 
>>>>> after a while, 
i agree, this will be quite evident ...
(thanks John)

>>>>> I always thought that the AD&D "I'm a Paladin until proven
>>>>> otherwise" approach was sort of putting the cart before 
>>>>> the horse. 

That's why, PCs MUST first prove themselves to the High Priest that 
they are worthy to be consecrated and then ALWAYS faithfully follow 
the tenets of his Pantheon or else lose all the hard earned money and EPs 
... this i think would, at the very least, simulates his/her/their devotion 
to the Pantheon 
(thanks again Stan)

>>>>> In a message dated 16.03.00 02:54:15 W. Europe Standard Time, 
dseagraves@austin.rr.com (Dave Seagraves) writes:
>>>>> I don't like limiting humans as the only race who can be paladins.
>>>>> There was a Space Gamer article which addressed the issue, 
>>>>> saying that any race ought to be able to be a paragon of virtue -- 
>>>>> which is essentially what a paladin is.
will do ...
(thanks dave)

Random Thoughts ...
what if their attribute totals go below 40 due to death, 
curse, etc., will they also lose their Paladinhood ?
i think not ... so long as he has served his Pantheon faithfully, the 
talent should remain active ...  

other thoughts ?

thanks for reading this far ... 

warmest regards to all !

Jaypus
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