Re: (TFT) Number Crunching: Example

["John Paul Bakshoian" <hailmelee@hotmail.com>]

> From: dwtulloh@zianet.com
> Subject: (TFT) Number Crunching:  Example
> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:52:28 GMT

> Lets say that Sam chooses the DEFEND option which forces
> Joe to roll 4 dice to hit Sam.  According to AM (pg 18),
>
>     "... on 4 dice instead of 3.  4 and 5 are still
>     automatic hits; 20 and above are automatic misses;
>     21 and 22 are dropped weapons and 23 and 24 are
>     broken weapons."
>
> A couple of points to note here.  First, getting triple
> damage is IMPOSSIBLE.  Second, there is no mention made
> of double damage for a roll of 4 (but lets assume that
> is still valid.)  Third, the chances of getting an
> automatic hit drop drastically while the chance for an
> automatic miss remain about the same as for a 3 die roll.
> (Note that the distributions of rolls discussed on page
> 38 of ITL are referring to saving rolls ONLY).
> snip<
> Under the system I propose, Joe would still roll 4 dice
> to hit but he would only use the 3 highest dies.  snip<
> Basically, thats the approach.  Imagine what would
> happen if Sam were a master of Unarmed Combat and
> was defending.  Joe would have to roll SEVEN dice to
> hit him!
>
> We can argue about whether there's an increased chance
> of weapon breakage (I don't feel there would be) but
> I think this system applies very well to saving rolls.
> If I attempt a very difficult task, there should be
> an increased risk of failure.  If I am an expert in the
> field of the task, I can mitigate this chance due to
> my superior knowledge/skill.
>
> Dan

First, thanks for explaining by example.

Sam defends, Joe rolls 4D6.  Too bad the original rules didn't compensate 
for critical successes.

However, I'm not quite sure that I understand why using only 3 of the 4 dice 
works.

What if I say, "OK, you defend.  In my left hand are the three dice I will 
accept as my hit and I won't bother throwing the one in my right hand 
because it won't count.  This becomes the same as Joe not having defended at 
all.  This sound like a valid thing for the player can do via this 
arrangement.

UNLESS you are saying that Joe rolls the 4 dice and that SAM decides which 
three to use to hit him.  Then that would bring defend back into the 
defenders benefit.

Also, say an IQ roll is needed by Farsighted Ned to see the pit trap and he 
gets his roll at 6D6.  Does this mean that the GM rolls 6 dice, chooses 
three of those dice and that is the result (taking into consideration crits 
and misses?)

This system might work, but I would rather have a matrix for 2D6 to 10D6 
which includes Critical Success (CS), Critical Failures (CF) added.  There 
is one in the GM shield but its not very good.

3D6 CSx3=3; CSx2=4; Autohit=5; Autofail=16; CFx2=17; CFx3=18.
4D6 CSx3=4; CSx2=5,6; Autohit=7; Autofail=17; CFx2=18,19; CFx3=20
etc.  It can be worked out for the proper ratios.

In fact the game can use both patterns (Matrix and Multidice by 3).

Now what about a talent that lets a character defend better?  Say, add 
another Die to make it 5D6.  Or what about a talent that lets him 
immediately counter an attack that he defended:  Sam defends, Joe misses or 
hits, Sam immediately uses his counterattack skill at -4DX.

Hail Melee

John Paul
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