Thorn, I agree with Rick in that it is a talent/skill for manipulating/asking said deity via haemoglobin to boost skills rather than learnt spell/intellectual feat type thingy. Rick, where was yer blood magic stuff then? Cas ===== Post to the entire list by writing to tft@brainiac.com. Unsubscribe by mailing to majordomo@brainiac.com with the message body "unsubscribe tft"