RE: (TFT) hero 3IQ rule and wizards & hero

["Pasha and Rick Smith" <pnrsmith@istar.ca>]

Hi All,
	The person who wrote the post below (Andrew?)
did a nice job of summarizing the rules and trade offs 
of heroes and wizards taking spells / talents outside
their specialty.

	Note that there are a few talents that wizards
can buy at normal cost.


	My question to the list is this: What SHOULD the
rules be?  If we were to ignore cannon and just want to
build a fun rpg, what rules should we use?

	Saying that wizards and fighters can ALL buy 
talents and spells at regular memory cost has a real 
advantage in the simplicity department.  There have been
other role-playing games that took that strategy (Rune-
Quest for example) and did not seem terribly damaged by
the experiment.

	Under this system I think that the -4DX for 1 kg
of iron should be retained.  

	Perhaps there should be some different rules that
encourage people to specialize.  I just feel that the 
*3 memory cost & -4 DX / *2 memory cost -0 DX are 
arbitrary.

	Obviously Steve Jackson felt the need to strongly
penalize fighters from taking an odd spell. Perhaps he
did not want all the fighters taking one missile spell.


	What are people's feelings on this? 


	Rick

 

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Subject: Re: (TFT) hero 3IQ rule and wizards & hero


You--you do what?  Who do you think you are, 
mister?  Overlooking part of the holy texts--are 
you out of your mind?

Er, but seriously: yeah, why not?  (!!)  Myself, I 
do use the 3 point rule, but really you'd think the
-4 DX penalty on non-wizard casting is enough.  The 
two of them together seem a bit too draconian.  

And anyway, is a wizard at -4 DX to use a quarterstaff 
if he buys that talent (at mere double cost)?  Sheesh.

Hm, looks like I have more of a problem with the 
gratuitous DX penalty than with the tripled IQ cost.

Actually, I have an evil suspicion that this all may 
be a minor editing error or oversight on Jackson's part. 
Consider that the -4 DX on non-wizard casting is just
in AW, and the "3 points per" rule is just in ITL.  I
suspect the second penalty was created without thinking
about the one already in place.  

At the very least, it would seem reasonable to
say that the -4 non-wizards get is the SAME -4
that anyone gets from having metal when casting.
(So a schmuck with a sword who spends 3 IQ and 
most of a year to learn the Blur spell isn't at
-8 DX to cast the dumb thing.)

All baseless heresy, of course.  A few heated 
replies about how non-wizards without -8 DX to 
cast Summon Bear will just drive the wizard's
guild into the gutter should beat these silly 
notions out of me.
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