Re: (TFT) Engaging in TFT ---> rats

["John Paul Bakshoian" <hailmelee@hotmail.com>]

> From: "David Michael Grouchy II" <david_michael_grouchy_ii@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: (TFT) Engaging in TFT ---> rats
> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2002 02:15:00 -0600
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> > From: "John Paul Bakshoian" <hailmelee@hotmail.com>
> >
> >    This may be belated on reply, but I think this is an
> > acceptable idea.
> >
> >    I would even go a bit further to apply it to riders on
> > horseback who zip by a player's zone of control but are
> > not stopped by it.  Let the unmounted get a swing at the
> > rider as he gallops by.  Perhaps both can get a swing at
> > minus DXs.  If the rider is hurt, find out if he falls.
> > If he fails his DX, roll again to see if he catches himself.
> >  Another failed roll and he falls off his horse next to
> > the unmounted man, but the horse still gallops onward.
>
> John,
>    A belated reply is always O.K.  Most of these topics are timeless to 
> me.
>  I'm willing to discuss anything in the archives.  Even from years ago.
>    First, doesn't it take two people to engage a horse?  So the horse and
> rider get to pass the figure by anyway.  But to do it the way you describe 
> I
> remember something from the early version of Chapions called the "pass
> through attack."  It seems similar, but with yours the character being
> passed through gets to hit back.  A quick question.  What does the rider
> roll vs. DX if he has EXPERT HORSEMANSHIP?
>
>    David Michael Grouchy II

David,

You are correct in that in TFT, it would take 2 people to engage a horse.   
But I'm still thinking that a fast moving massive 2 hex+ object would still 
have inertia to plow right through two fighters.  If you've seen 13th 
Warrior or a score of similar, that's what they do.  Except maybe to Massed 
Pikemen.

I would like to hear the Champions "Pass through Attack" rule.

On my "Pass By Attack", the rider would have to have at least horsemanship 
talent to attempt it or be at major penalties.  If he gets hit, he rolls 
against horsemanship (or Expert Horsemanship) to see if he is good enough to 
stay seated through the hit.  Of course if he gets hit with 5+ damage, his 
savings roll is at -2DX.  If he gets hit with 8 damage he falls per damage 
rules and probably takes even more in falling damage.

Rider would roll the normal advantage of Expert Horseman which is I think 
one die less than regular horsemanship in staying on horse.

Here is how I would use this in movement.
H = Hexes.  R = Rider movement which is 18 hexes.  He attacks man at  the 
10th hex.
G is where horse ends up at end of movement phase.
M is man.  The attack occurs for both of them at F.
If Rider is unmounted, he lands at X.
The attack happens at combat phase with high dex going first (unless there 
are pole weapons involved, then they go first.)

Note there could be other fights going on with this same rider, but he only 
gets one swing and any standing fighters only get one swing as he goes by.

If the horse is starts its "charge" only 3 hexes away, it does not have 
enough momentum to do a "Pass By attack" and must stop if there are 2 
fighters engaging him.

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
RRRRRRRRRF XRRRRRRG
                          M

I hope that lined up for your machines.


Hailmelee
John Paul



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