(TFT) Come one, come all ! Potions for all spells

["rsmith" <rsmith@lightspeed.ca>]

Hi all,
	I could easily see a hurtled potions
smashing on the floor.  Strange fumes 
spreading and sinking into the stones and
causing them to become sticky or slippery.

	Having said that, I am not keen on
the idea of every spell = every potion =
every magic item.

	While it saves typing for the game
designer to be able to say, "see spell X
for the effects of this potion".  I think
that the game has more flavor if alchemists,
chemists, item enchanters and spell casters
all have their own strengths that the 
others can not duplicate.

	The effects that gods give their 
priests are not mentioned in the above 
discussion.  Should not 'priest magic'
logically be duplicated by chemical, 
alchemical, magic items and magical effects
as has been suggested for the other four
modes of accomplishing things do?

	What is more, if TFT is expanded with
more forms of magic such as necromancy, 
blood magics, existential magic, rune magic
glyffs, environmental magics, etc., it would 
be a huge task to duplicate all the new
spells and effects in magic items (and 
priestly effects if those are included).

	Also is it appropriate for normal 
magic to duplicate all the effects of 
existential magics, environmental magics
etc.?


	Magic items are closely related to
spell casting type magics, so it is logical
that the two would have many congruencies.
But I am not bothered that their are some
magic items that have no spells and vise-
versa.  Some things are easier in the new
mode than the old.


	I think it would be more interesting,
that different forms of 'technology' should
have different effects and rules as seems 
appropriate for that class of effects.


	Rick




-----Original Message-----
From: tft-owner@brainiac.com [mailto:tft-owner@brainiac.com]On Behalf Of
Ed Thorn
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:23 PM
To: tft@brainiac.com
Subject: Re: (TFT) Are TFT Magic Items Too Complicated?


--- Dan Tulloh <dwtulloh@zianet.com> wrote:
> I agree.  In my mind, potions should be limited to
> things that affect the
> drinker only.  That still leaves a wide range of
> effects available - giving
> the drinker Mage Sight to making him Insubstantial
> or Invisible, to 
> giving him aid (in ST, DX or IQ) to making him
> clumsy, giving him 
> speed or whatever.

Well thought and said.

> It shouldn't allow the drinker
> to create a gargoyle,
> summon a wolf or make a floor slippery though.

Here I must disagree.  I can see where you may have
the thought that potions affect the user, and
therefore the alchemist can only produce such effects.
 But a slippery floor seems a reasonable effect from
the alchemist's art.  And while Gems exist for
Gargoyles and Wolves, it seems to me alchemical
preparations might be made to create images or
illusions of whatever the alchemist intended, and of
course concocted for.



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