Re: (TFT) Question to list... Shooting twice per turn.

[pvk@oz.net]

Other reasons why it wouldn't make sense include:

Consider crossbows' reduced reload time. Clearly the DX used is that for
reloading, not for what the target might be.

Consider shooting at two different targets at different ranges - which one
would be used to calculate rate of fire? Also, if that were supposed to be
the rule, this would need to be specified in the rules somewhere, and it
is not.

Consider the level of complexity of the rest of the rules, and the fact
to-hit penalties don't and couldn't without dire playability impace affect
melee combat sequence (see earlier discussion some months ago). It would
go against common sense (the range to target isn't directly related to
reloading speed), and complicate play.

I do quite like the house rule you mentioned of a DX penalty for using the
higher rate of fire, though. It's a lot fairer considering the sudden
doubling compared to someone with one DX lower than required to fire
2/turn at no penalty.

PvK

> I sidestep the issue with a house rule that gives shooting two arrows a -6
> Dx
> penalty on both shots.
>
> With the standard rules, I'd argue that Dx adjustments that don't affect
> order of actions also don't affect the ability to make the second shot.
> And range
> adjustments don't affect order of actions. (AM pages 9 and 14)
>
> In a message dated 9/22/2004 7:44:30 AM Central Standard Time,
> prophesor@yahoo.com writes:
>
>
>> Around these parts, qualifying for the second shot
>> _at_all_ is rare enough, that if range were then taken
>> into account, hopeful players would feel cheated.
>>
>> In similar vein, as a GM I don't want to consider
>> range when building an opponent that I intend to have
>> fire twice.  And if I build a badguy or ally to fire
>> twice, it would be irksome to have some minor
>> environmental effect drop the DX and prevent that.
>>
>> So the DX qualifies for the (entirely too granular)
>> increase in fire rate, and then range and
>> environmental factors just reduce the chance per shot.
>>
>> Of course, in higher-stat worlds, it might be a good
>> thing to apply range and/or environment (and things
>> like Blur?) to the archer's DX.  It's defensible, at
>> least.
>>
>> --- Rick Smith <rsmith@lightspeed.ca> wrote:
>>
>> > In the regular rules, do you count range
>> > adjustments for determining if you shoot
>> > twice per turn?
>> >
>> > I had thought not, but skimming the rules
>> > in the OBVIOUS PLACES suggests that you
>> > do.  Is this mentioned in an un-obvious
>> > place?
>> >
>> > What do people do in their own campaigns?
>> >
>> > Rick
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