(TFT) Re: TFT Digest V4 #155

[Mark Tapley <mtapley@swri.edu>]

At 3:06 -0400 7/28/11, Jay wrote:
> Any Figure with Thrown Weapons can move 2 hexes and throw a weapon lying on
> the ground

	Jay, this is where I came in but on re-reading the options 
list on the excellent advice of several other list members, the 
"scoop up" item only appears under Option III (AM pp.3), which also 
explicitly states "no other action".

I think maybe

Turn 1:
	move up to full MA, scoop up weapon
	no action
Turn 2:
	shift or move up to 1/2 MA
	throw weapon

is the way that character would have to go. Two weapons would let him 
do the same sequence, but scoop up 2 weapons (at -6 MA or with 2 
3D/DX rolls) on turn 1 and throw both on turn 2. But I don't think he 
can scoop and throw on the same turn, at least using the rules as 
written. House rules may vary...

> How about this 32pt Figure?
> ST 8
> DX 13
> IQ 11
> MA 12
> Knife (1), Running (2), Thrown Weapons (2), Acrobatics (3), Two Weapons (3)

	Could be an effective character, but limited in the maximum 
amount of damage per turn he can do. Tactics would help, to give him 
a better chance of controlling the range at which he throws.
	Knock off 2 ST (and maybe move 2 more into DX), make him a 
hobbit, and have him know "sha-ken" instead of "knife" and he goes 
over the top, into the range of what I disparagingly call "MPNS" 
(murderous psycho ninja sniper) hobbits. I'm sad to say that kind of 
character is kind of a staple around our gaming group.
	We assume MPNS hobbits get the +3 DX and +1 damage on *each* 
of the sha-ken, up to 12, that they throw in a turn. That may be 
unrealistic, but even if we allow only one sha-ken per turn, they 
still go for aimed shots and dagger marksmanship shots, and the 
hobbit racial bonuses are pretty undeniable there. Either way, they 
are death on a stick for any unarmored opponent, and pretty bad news 
(with dagger marksmanship) against armored ones.

> 1d6-4 basically means the Figure only scores damage with about a third of
> its total successful hits.

	I claim the table on AM pp. 10 says daggers do 1D-1 no matter 
what strength the thrower. The table on pp. 21 applies for unarmed or 
for HTH combat, or for clubs, but not for other weapons (like thrown 
dagger).

	At some point I need to read the Fahfrd and Grey Mouser 
stories, but your figure sounds like he's on his way to a pretty good 
spot - but yeah, he really needs one or two more experience before he 
gets great. Rapier and main-gauche, or 2 rapiers, and Tactics, 
actually works pretty good. If you can work in Fencing (at the cost 
of running?) as well, it's even better - double damage comes up 
surprisingly often with 2 attacks/turn and fencing.

> If one of the spells on both knives is +5 ST does that count toward the HtH
> damage table if he throws both of them in the same turn, i.e. does the
> Second blow from Two Weapons Talent (@ -4 DX) happen before a Missile
> Weapons second attack?

	We play thus:

1) pole weapons charging
2) all other actions in DX order
	a) first attacks, missile and 2-weapon
	b) second attacks, 2-weapon
3) second attacks for missile weapons.

	For a DX-13 fighter of this type, if I were putting magic on 
his weapon, I'd put at least +2 DX on one of the weapons, to get his 
second attack up to DX 11. That is, unless you can pretty much count 
on the first attack knocking the enemy down - that would boost his 
adjDX for the second attack up to the same as the first attack 
(-4DX+4DX) so it would come as an immediate "coup de grace". In that 
case, the blows happen "simultaneously". Else, the second blow 
happens 4 DX later.

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