Re: (TFT) Heroes versus Jay's football pros

[raito@raito.com]

I had a whole rant written, then the ether ate it. Anyway... 

In TFT, at least for DX, any adjDX above 15 renders no advantage (other 
than getting to act first) to any similat DX. Yet any pro player will 
smoke any high school player. TFT doesn't model that accurately. And 
that's fine by me. I don't require reality in my system, just 
consistency. 

Also, TFT Talents are monolithic. Doing much else takes you into GURPS 
territory. 

And, finally, there's no idea of stat vs. stat in TFT. This keeps 
things clean and fast, but in reality it is you vs. the other guy, not 
you vs your DX. 

There's no good way to convert an attribute from TFT to something with 
any meaning in the real world. First off, an attribute is a composite 
of real world abilities. And real world abilities are an amalgam of 
physical ability and experience. 

Neil Gilmore
raito@raito.com

Quoting PvK <pvk@oz.net>:
> Jay, I think you came off (to me, somehow, too) as saying your NFL characters
> would have some level-30 attributes, which in this later post it now 
> seems you
> wouldn't. I agree with the poster who said 30 is theoretical human 
> maximum for a
> gifted person, more or less, and I don't remember having any human 
> NPC's with a
> 30 in anything. 
>
> 20 was more like the usual max for anyone except the really amazing 
> exceptional
> people. 
>
> Mega warriors might have up to 26 or so ST, if only to be able to 
> have some guys
> using greatswords one-handed for shock and awe. 
>
> Arch mages did have IQ's in the 20's. 
>
> A few heroes had DX a bit above 20. They sort of defined what the best of the
> best was like. 
>
> Plenty of great heroes only had one attribute above 15, and it was under 20. 
>
> I would not rate NFL players any higher than TFT heroes. More like typical
> values I would expect are:
>
> NFL running back ST 12 DX 18 IQ 11
> NFL linebacker ST 18 DX 12 IQ 10
> NFL quarterback ST 14 DX 17 IQ 15
>
> Extremely strong linebacker ST 25
> Extremely agile running back DX 24
>
> They do have advanced levels of various football talents. 
>
> Jay, you seem to have even gone one level further and invented a mechanic for
> keeping the attributes that low (other than aging), which I think is 
> very cool,
> i.e.:
>
> --- maou.tsaou@gmail.com wrote:
>
> From: Jay Carlisle <maou.tsaou@gmail.com>
> To: "tft@brainiac.com" <tft@brainiac.com>
> Subject: Re: (TFT) Newb
> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 20:50:11 -0700
>
> ... 
> The best of the best probably do top out in the 30's for a stat... at the
> peak of their game. 
> The way I've set it up, it takes a crazy lot of downtime "practice and
> training" to keep up a stat in the 20ish level. 
> Figures trying to maintain 60ish points really don't have time for random
> adventuring as their schedule is too full. 
> Ergo, I don't worry too much about mega-stat player Figures because I've got
> them locked down enough on their maintinance to keep them from getting too
> froggy. 
> ... 
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