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Re: (TFT) Jobs table: 100,000 simulated soldiers and farmers
On Sep 25, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Jay Carlisle wrote:
On Saturday, September 24, 2011, Margaret Tapley wrote:
Why red and yellow stripes?
Because red is a rare dye colour and a striped pattern is
difficult to
achieve.
Hate to bust your bubble, but a striped pattern is actually just
about
the easiest to get, textiles-wise. With most people, I wouldn't
nitpick this kind of thing, but since I know you really care about
the
details... ;-)
KaPOW!
Thanks Ms. T!
Love the info.
Also a good example of getting burned off an "on the fly" response.
As I understand things currently the main source of red in Europe was
safflower (bastard saffron) until the discovery of the new world
when it
moved to cochineal before synthetics.
They also used madder, which was probably cheaper. In fact, madder was
the dye used for the Redcoats' uniforms up until they could get
cochineal in large enough quantities.
We're not talking lapis lazuli hard to get or expensive but it
wasn't cheep
or easy either.
I also have been working with some VERY naive attempts at dyeing
patterns
for the sails of my longship models and noticed it's hard to control
bleeding, at least with the materials I'm using right now.
Have you tried just painting the stripes on, with acrylics or similar?
Alternatively, look into gutta-resist techniques, which might help you
get clean lines.
Side question, did the Vikings actually put stripes on their longship
sails? Every single depiction of a Viking ship you see has big fat
stripes on the sail, but then a lot of those depictions also have them
wearing helmets with giant horns...
Twixt the two lines of thought I pulled that little comment and
though there
was some thought behind it apparently I thought wrong.
The fantasy bit would probably let me fudge the connotation of
stripes but
the difficulty I assigned...
DUHHHH I'll bet the stripes come outta the weaving process instead
of the
dye part.
That's usually the case, yes. You just set up your loom with two
different colors in the warp for vertical stripes, or use two
different colors in the weft for horizontal stripes. Plaid is what
happens when you mix vertical and horizontal stripes.
The process for Tapa cloth is completely different with the
"stripes" being
applied to a piece of finished fabric.
Ughhh, I've been spending too much mental time on Rapa Nui.
I've got my Orcs dressed but I forgot about my Vikings!
Maybe I'll just send Picts...
Haha - great, now you can learn all about woad! (Assuming, of course,
you don't already have a massive compilation of data concerning the
economics and applications of the stuff...)
- Meg
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