Re: Dodging arrows (was: Re: (TFT) Targeting Horses and their Riders)

[Lloyd <laweber3@yahoo.com>]

Perhaps these are the reasons TFT requires choosing the Dodge option as a part of the movement phase, prior to the action phase, thus prior to knowing whether an arrow will even be let lose. There is no requirement to dodge into an adjacent hex during the action phase because that would be an impossibly/improbably quick movement.

Lloyd

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On Aug 27, 2013, at 11:16 AM, "Edward Kroeten" <ekroeten@farmersagent.com> wrote:

> Okay, let's think about that .5 second.  Did you ever play dodge ball from the
> time the ball left my hand to his someone was about in that time range (unless
> you were right on top of them then you go for the face :-O).  Generally I hit
> around 70 percent of the time this was in high school and in college believe
> it or not as part of a team building assignment; I still play with my kids (no
> head hunting wife gets angry).  Now I am fairly accurate, I can win at those
> stupid fair games, but I don't have Brett Favre cannon arm, but people were
> dodging if they did random things it was hard to hit them then the people who
> either waited trying to catch the ball or jump out of the way.
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> You can try this yourself get some victims uh I mean volunteers and have a
> go, I would bet the guys jumping around and juking are hard to hit then the
> guys who wait for the ball to launch.  Obviously you can't just do 1 2 3 throw
> or they will time the rhythm and all you are proving is that they can see a
> pattern.
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> ------ Original Message ------
>   Received: 06:01 AM PDT, 08/27/2013
>   From: Robert Ward <rob@dolwen.com>
>   To: tft@brainiac.com
>   Subject: Re: Dodging arrows (was: Re: (TFT) Targeting Horses and their
> Riders)
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>     Sounds like a plausible arrow speed, but what do I know.
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>       A whole-body response time of .5 seconds sounds fast but not
> impossible
>       to me. Consider that a pre-programmed jump from sprint blocks in
>       response to a highly salient start signal takes over 100 ms, a
> variable
>       reaction in response to arrow flight would take significantly longer,
>       and perceptual limits would reduce the time available still further.
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>       Finally, 50 yards = 45.72 meters = 34 hexes (about 15 megahexes, or 3
>       melee maps placed end-to-end). Unusual combat situation for our group.
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>       So I might allow someone with combat reflexes to dodge or block a very
>       long shot like this one, if they knew it was coming. Esp if it meant a
>       cinematic outcome like dodging an assassin's aimed shot to the head
> from
>       that kind of range. Of course the assassin would be firing at DX -7
> for
>       range and -6 for the headshot.
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>       On Tue, Aug 27, 2013, at 12:32 AM, PvK wrote:
>> I have fairly fast arrow speeds at about 200 feet per second, maybe
> 300
>> feet per second as a maximum probably not achieved by low-tech bows.
>> 
>> 50 yards is 150 feet, meaning at least a half-second of flight time,
>> which is enough to move your entire body left or right, completely
> out of
>> the space it was in when the firer loosed the arrow...
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