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Re: (TFT) Test of general MELEE knowledge, NUMBER IV

* In the first place, o3's first attempted movement would require an MA of 12. It costs an extra movement point to pass a hex with a fallen figure in it. Perhaps he has no armor and the Running talent.
* It's also a bit of a roleplaying/realism stretch for him to be running at full speed around the corner, see and assess the situation half-way through, decide what to do, and get full MA all in the same turn. That's sort of irrelevant to the question, though.
* Also, the consideration of Arron's chances to hit Orc 3 while prone with a body are incorrect. The penalty to hit someone prone behind a body is -4 DX, not 50/50 to hit the body.
* Another quibble is the assertion that Orc 3's weapon will be on the ground after tripping. I don't remember such a rule in TFT. (In GURPS I have a house rule where only people who fail both a DX and an IQ roll drop their weapons when falling.)
* As for the actual question: Engagement prevents reloading of missile weapons. However since Arron's first shot knocked down the orc, that ended the engagement (even if the orc were still alive) immediately, and allows him to reload and fire a second shot. 

PvK



At 10:33 PM 3/22/04 -0600, David Michael Grouchy II wrote:

Test of general MELEE knowledge, NUMBER IV
Let's see if anyone can answer this question correctly. First will be a simple melee set up. Then a situation that is contested by the player. 
Finally, how would you rule on it.
Arron the Archer [a] has dropped a couple of orcs in a narrow hall by shooting twice a turn, for two turns. The orcs have been coming one at a time so far. But now a pair of them approach. 

.                     __
.            __    __/  \__
.   __    __/  \__/  \__/  \
.__/  \__/  \__/o4\__/  \__/
/  \__/  \__/  \__/  \__/  \
\__/  \__/  \__/o3\__/  \__/
/  \__/  \__/  \__/  \__/
\__/  \__/  \__/
/  \__/
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/  \
\__/
/a \
\__/

[a] Arron
[ob] orc body
[o3] orc number 3
[o4] orc number 4
The orcs have cutlass and Dx 13. For the next turn Orc number 3 begins to move up. 

.                     __
.            __    __/  \__
.   __    __/  \__/  \__/  \
.__/  \__/  \__/o4\__/  \__/
/  \__/  \__/  \__/  \__/  \
\__/  \__/. \__/. \__/  \__/
/  \__/. \__/. \__/  \__/
\__/. \__/  \__/
/o3\__/
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/  \
\__/
/a \
\__/
But when he sees fallen orcs bristling with arrows, he decides to move his full MA and engage. No point in giving the archer two turns to shoot at him. And he screams out in Orcish "Bloody archer!" Orc number 4 just moves up and prepairs to dodge. 

.                     __
.            __    __/  \__
.   __    __/  \__/  \__/  \
.__/  \__/  \__/. \__/  \__/
/  \__/  \__/. \__/  \__/  \
\__/  \__/. \__/  \__/  \__/
/  \__/. \__/  \__/  \__/
\__/. \__/  \__/
/o4\__/
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/o3\
\__/
/a \
\__/
Now Orc 3 has to make a save vs. DX on 3d for each of the bodies he crossed. At Dx 13 he has no trouble, and crosses the first body. But he failes the second roll, and falls down in the hex. So now the narrow hallway looks like this. 

\__/. \__/  \__/
/o4\__/
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob & o3
\__/
/  \
\__/
/a \
\__/
Rather than shoot into the pile of bodies, and risk a 50/50 chance of hitting Orc 3 or the body, Arron shots the dodging Orc 4. Armed with a long bow 1d+2 and a DX of 18, Arron hits twice. Even on 4D to hit. But he rolls poor damage, a 4 and a 3, so while Orc 4 is wounded for a total of 7 this turn, he is still standing. On the next turn Orc 3 realizes that not only does he have to stand up, and ready his weapon, that he wont be able to attack this turn, so he waits for Orc 4 to engage the archer, and then he will stand up. Orc 4 runs up and engages the archer. 

\__/  \__/  \__/
/. \__/
\__/
/. \
\__/
/ob\
\._/
/  \
\._/
/ob & o3
\._/
/o4\
\__/
/a \
\__/
Orc 4 makes both his DX rolls to cross the bodies, and engages the archer. Orc 3 Stands up. He will have to wait till next turn to ready his Cutlass. 

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-- here is where the argument starts --
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Arron is now engaged, and takes his last shot option. Well, to no surprise he hits. He does decent damage and kills Orc 4 who is already badly wounded. 
  Orc 3 stands up, though his cutlass is still on the ground at his feet.
  Arron wants to take his second shot at Orc 3.
Orc 3 says he can't. He says the archer took a "last shot option", and according to the rules, not only does he not get a second shot but he HAS to drop his bow as well. 

  How would you rule?

\__/  \__/  \__/
/  \__/
\__/
/  \
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/  \
\__/
/o3| standing on body
\__/
/ob\
\__/
/a \
\__/

    David Michael Grouchy II

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