Re: (TFT) Mars

[Joey Beutel <mejobo@comcast.net>]

On Aug 4, 2011, at 3:06 PM, Jay Carlisle wrote:

> NASA announces a big discovery about Mars press conference at 11:00  
> in the
> a.m. my time and nobody in the u.s. press gets to it before I can  
> get it
> from the BBC.
> Not even NASA's own websites.
> Sigh...
> Anyway;
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14408928
> Flowing water on Mars...
> ...
> Flowing water?
> ...
> Each "summer"?
> ...
> Duhhhhhhhh...
> <Scratches bleeding hole in scalp>
> How does the water get up the highlands to flow down into the  
> "valleys"?
> There's not really weather...
> Am I really that stupid?

No, but there is weather on Mars. Even a "sand storm" in winter (when  
the water is all frozen) could move the ice around.

Also, last time I checked they think there are conventional storms on  
Mars as well....
> ...
> As this is a speculative matter and not a issue of future planing  
> I'm gonna
> take the liberty of assuming I'm not completely dain-bramaged and  
> that the
> water in the highlands could end up being quite an issue.
> Wikipedia is saying;
> "Current models of the planet's interior imply a core region about  
> 1,480 km
> in radius, consisting primarily of iron with about 1417% sulfur.  
> This iron
> sulfide core is partially fluid, and has twice the concentration of  
> the
> lighter elements than exist at Earth's core. The core is surrounded  
> by a
> silicate mantle that formed many of the tectonic and volcanic  
> features on
> the planet, but now appears to be inactive. The average thickness of  
> the
> planet's crust is about 50 km, with a maximum thickness of 125 km.[27]
> Earth's crust, averaging 40 km, is only one third as thick as Mars  
> crust,
> relative to the sizes of the two planets."
> So until I get a better idea of exotectonics the understanding I  
> have so far
> says that it might not be geological activity that's circulating the  
> water.
> I've got a bastardized Velikovsky-like idea ("Velikovsky would  
> rebuild the
> science of celestial mechanics to save the literal accuracy of ancient
> legends") that has Mars being hit "ballistically" by an object that  
> strikes
> it like a bullet hits an apple.
> Phobos, Demos, a bunch of meteors so the Eskimo's can have a few metal
> harpoon tips... and a bunch of water splashed outta the ocean basin  
> up onto
> the highlands to get frozen in pretty quickly as the "bullet" took the
> atmosphere with it...
> Great.
> Now I'm back to projectiles in a rough vacuum at 1/3rd earth  
> gravity...
> Of course if their teraforming via greenhouse gas emitters  
> (factories even)
> then over time the friction is gonna increase but I'd rather carve  
> giant
> chuncks of heavy gas out where its frozen and lob snowballs at Mars  
> till she
> has a little blanket.
> Maybe even park Pluto on her.
> I'm not a very patient creator... I like to muck about in things...  
> part
> seas and whatnot from time to time.
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