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Re: (TFT) Re: Dodging arrows

It tough to win a battle when half your force isn't ready to fight as happen
to the English even though they saw the French on the field.  That is bad
generalship, but they lost the logistics battle in the latter years which
falls on the leadership not the common soldier.

 Also by all accounts the English bow was more powerful than any other Western
European bow (it was longer)and certainly more powerful than a Saracen bow.

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 ------ Original Message ------
   Received: 09:38 AM PDT, 08/29/2013
   From: David Bofinger <bofinger.david@gmail.com>
   To: tft@brainiac.com
   Subject: (TFT) Re: Dodging arrows

     > And there's alos accounts (both European and Japanese) of guys coming
       > of a battle with nary a scratch, but with enough arrows hanging out
       > their armour to make it difficult to swing.

       Can't recall where I saw it now but I think there's a letter home from
       famous crusader remarking that he'd been hit by eleven arrows in his
       battle, and that he saw it as a sign of God's favour, not that they
       penetrate, but that he should be hit by so few. (The bows might not
       been as powerful as longbows, though.)

       We can argue about *why* it took so many arrows to kill someone under
       battle conditions, but we know it did.

       At Crecy they had horses to aim at, with IIUC not much barding, so
       probably did a good deal better.

       >>> the English lost [...] poor generalship

       Depends on your standard. Compared with the French generals who lost
       and Agincourt they were always pretty good. :-)

       >> On advantage of any self bow is that it can be made in the field

       That's true as far as it goes. But IIUC making arrows is basically a
       more work than making bows anyway, so I'm not sure it's that

       I'm guessing the self bow's tolerance for moisture was pretty important
       the English. The classic way to waterproof wood is varnish but you
can't do
       that with wood that bends so composite bows were always vulnerable to
       water. Hence composite bows being more common in dry places.

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