Re: (TFT) Shield Wall - Modifier Options

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I believe you break a shield wall by dividing into a small (token) flanking force that holds preparing to flank on one end while you attack with force on the other end.? A shield wall is an inefficient use of men if you are not confronted with a larger, frontal attack.? By placing a fast moving smaller group on the outside,?you can prevent the center and tail from coming to the aid of the head, then you have tied up their power maintaining a useless defense.


-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin@TheFantasyQuest.com
To: tft@brainiac.com
Sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 7:14 am
Subject: Re: (TFT) Shield Wall - Modifier Options


Instead of a new Talent, what about making it a set of combat modifiers (as with Mounted, Prone, etc...) which conveys penalties when attacking defenders in a shield wall. Maybe -2 to hit, and -2 damage.?
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It might go like this...?
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If Agnar, Bothvar & Cerdic - all with the "Shield" Talent have made a shield-wall, here's what you'd be up against if you attack them:?
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Attacking Agnar: One shielded flank, so the attacker gets -2 DX & -2 Damage?
Bothvar: Two shielded flanks, giving him -4 DX to hit & -4 Damage?
Cerdic: One shielded flank means once again -2, -2?
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Attacking Agnar or Cerdic on their exposed Flank might give the attacker a +6 to hit, and +6 damage to account for their dedication to maintaining the shield-wall's integrity. If they break-off to protect themselves, it's like "rolling-up-the-flank". That's how you break a shield-wall, right??
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Just my two denarii.?
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Gavin Gossett?
The Fantasy Quest?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Coles" <eac42@columbia.edu>?
To: <tft@brainiac.com>?
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 4:04 PM?
Subject: RE: (TFT) baseball?
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> DEFINITELY prereq shield IMO.?
>?
> Best,?
>?
> Eric?
>?
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> I was really thinking about a spell instead of a talent.? I was thinking?
> more of a force field.?
>?
> I kinda like the talent, but it seems redundant to Warrior/Vet, or the?
> actual shield talent.? Maybe this could be an expert skill with a shield.??
> Prerequisite: Shield Talent.??
>?
> Obviously someone's been watching "300" recently.? I like the shield work > in?
> Gladiator, at the beginning.?
>?
> Good Fortune,?
> Richard?
>?
>?
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> From: Eric Coles <eac42@columbia.edu>?
> To: tft@brainiac.com?
> Sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 4:47 pm?
> Subject: RE: (TFT) baseball?
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>?
>?
> If I am reading correctly, no spell is involved. This is a Talent,?
> representing training. Which, by the way, is quite historically?
> appropriate, and can be seen in action in a number of the better organized?
> units at the Pennsic War. Think I'm going to borrow this one (of course, > in?
> my world, it would probably be most used by the Legions of the primarily > Orc?
> Greater East Trollheim Coprosperity Sphere...)?
>?
> Best,?
>?
> Eric?
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> Subject: Re: (TFT) baseball?
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> I'd make the shield wall dangerous to employ.? I'd make it able to stop as?
> many hits as come at you requiring an intitial fatigue to cast it and then?
> blocking one point for every fatigue point you have left until you're?
> unconscious.? So, if you were intially 11 ST and you cast the spell for 2?
> Fatigue.. you're at 9 ST.? Then you are hit for 8 damage and your spell > will?
> fatigure you 8 points instantly.? You can't control how many points you > are?
> fatigued.? So, if you are hit for 10 damage, you'll be knocked unconscious?
> with -1 health.? If you were physickered, you'd recover.?
>?
> Good Fortune,?
> Richard?
>?
>?
> -----Original Message-----?
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> Sent: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 3:48 pm?
> Subject: Re: (TFT) baseball?
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> And since we're discussing the odd new talent, here's one I had for a > while?
> for??
> a certain class of characters (still exists in my campaign, but can only > be??
> learned under certain circumstances):??
> ??
> Shield Wall - IQ 9 - 1 pt. A figure with the Shield Wall Talent may, when?
> using a shield, add to the hits??
> stopped value of his shield the hits stopped value of shields used by?
> adjacent??
> friendly figures, provided that a) those figures also have the Shield > Wall??
> talent, and b) the figures share at least one adjacent front hex. ??
> So you could lock shields, and in some circumstances get a pretty hefty?
> bonus. There's relatively few Talents that come in handy in mass fighting > (?
> Tactics and??
> Strategy being obvious exceptions). 3 guys in a row with tower shields > are??
> pretty impressive. ??
> Neil Gilmore??
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