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Re: (TFT) Hell Tank vs Ogre
I agree with this absolutely. Had the production values been higher, it
would have done a lot better market-wise.
From: Rick Smith <email@example.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 2:53 PM
Subject: (TFT) Hell Tank vs Ogr
Hell Tank and HT Destroyer were far more realistic
games than OGRE
and GEV. In OGRE, we have a move / fire sequence, so
an out of range
attacker can scoot up to a hidden and dug in defender and
No tactical game can have a move / fire game sequenc
e and be considered
realistic. (Altho it does not work bad for strateg
ic level games.)
The thing that makes OGRE GEV is the cyber tanks.
ONE tank going against
a whole armor division has an instantly recogn
Hell tank felt like a much more regular war game, w
ith higher counter
densities, much more difficult for the attacker to do
things, etc. It does not have
the easy to pick up fun factor of OGRE.
I actually respected that Metagaming was trying for a more realis
tic game to
replace Ogre and GEV.
Warm regards, Rick
On 2014-08-07, at 1:49 PM, Jeffrey Vandine wrote:
> Helltank and He
> r were interesting from two different aspects -- the fi
rst being that it pr
> ovided a slightly different take on future war fro
m Ogre/GEV, and, in some
> ways, was more balanced and realistic. The
second being that once again
> H.T. was doing his best to undermine a S
teve Jackson product. Had Hellta
> nk and HD been better playtested an
d had a little bit more money spent for
> improved graphics, they might
have even succeeded. As it was, while they
> were interesting to play,
they lacked some of the excitement of Ogre/GEV.
> From: Peter von Kleinsmid <pvk
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2014 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: (TFT) Re: Nostalgia
> I tells me that some of
> ad different tastes from me. I liked
> OGRE, and kind of lik
ed Ice War, bu
> t Helltank Destroyer had a little
> too much of a fla
vor of what seems to
> me like enthusiasm for future
> war with the t
hen Eastern Bloc. Growing up
> during the Cold War, I
> ended up with
an aversion to that fight, as it l
> ooked like a likely
> way to end
all life on Earth. Interesting to the gam
> ing morality
I have little problem playing wargames with or
> as Nazis
> and Sovi
ets (as long as it has nothing to do with death camps o
> At 06:23 AM 8/7/2014, gem6868 wrot
>> and what does it tell us about our primitive gaming ancestors??
>> -----Original Message----- From: Peter von Kleinsmid
>> August 07, 2014 3:14 AM To: email@example.com Su
bject: Re: (TFT) Re: N
>> I've got a complete Helltank Destr
oyer, almost usused. Just kee
>> it because it's an artifact.
>> At 09:34 AM 8/6/2014, gem6868
>>> I think I still
have my copy of Helltank I and II in a box
> somewhere. Uber-che
ap graphics, but fun game.
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