Re: (TFT) Disengaging - Revision in Melee

[Joe Beutel <mejobo@comcast.net>]

It's not greater vulnerability, though. The reason the enemy gets a chance to attack just fixes the fact that in melee all actions are by strict Dx order. Yes, I can move quicker so I have a higher chance of getting away without being hit, but the enemy should have a chance to get a shot in there. But the disengager's Dx is higher and he higher it is the lower the chance he is hit. Compared to (say we're using a rapier) hitting the enemy and only maybe causing -2dx if I do enough damage, it's actually a less vulnerable option to disengage in many cases.

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> On Aug 30, 2014, at 10:25 AM, "gem6868" <gem6868@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> from the fencing lessons I had, I just don't buy into the idea that a disengage invites a "free attack".  Basically, if I can retreat faster than you can advance [whether I'm just plain faster or I fake you out] then I'm going to disengage successfully.  Especially if you're tired or intimidated.
> 
> So what I'm saying in I don't believe "disengage automatically = greater vulnerability".
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Rick Smith
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 10:49 PM
> To: tft@brainiac.com
> Subject: Re: (TFT) Disengaging - Revision in Melee
> 
> Hi Gem,
> I am not fond of your suggestion.  It would cause DX rolls anytime someone
> disengages.  Also the logic is a little suspect.  I move away from you.  I might
> get hit while I leave, but what prevents me from going?  Especially if I am a
> knight with armor and you have a wimpy little dagger.
> 
> The rules in the revised Melee only are needed in the particular circumstance
> where things are broken, so they rarely slow down the game.
> 
> Warm regards, Rick.
> 
> 
>> On 2014-08-29, at 5:17 PM, gem6868 wrote:
>> 
>> personally I don't see any grounds for a free attack at all.  I'd make it a DX check, and if you succeed, you disengage without an attack, if you feel they have earned an attack since you messed up.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Rick Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 9:53 PM
>> To: tft@brainiac.com
>> Subject: Re: (TFT) Disengaging - Revision in Melee
>> 
>> No, this was the only fix Metagaming did on disengaging (that I know of).
>> 
>> Warm regards, rick.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2014-08-28, at 6:23 PM, Joseph Beutel wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do you know if there were any other official fixes on this? I'm perfectly content to keep using the version I've always used (the same as you) but my curiosity is getting the better of me…
>>>> On Aug 28, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Rick Smith <rick_ww@lightspeed.ca> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Joseph,
>>>> The rule that was in the last edition of Melee is the one I have accepted as
>>>> cannon.  We have always used it, once it came out, and felt that it fixed a
>>>> real problem in the game.
>>>> 
>>>> Warm regards, Rick.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2014-08-27, at 11:10 PM, Joseph Beutel wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sure we've talked about this, but I only just noticed that in my copy of Advanced Melee figures may disengage from enemies with a lower adjDX than themselves without any attack. My copy of Melee has the rule I've always used which is that they get a free attack on the disengaging figure with a die roll modifier equal to the difference in adjDX (its harder to hit the enemy but not impossible).
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's the official "final" rule? It seems unfair to just let high DX figures always disengage in a 1 on 1 fight.
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