You are so totally missing the point - and on purpose, I have no doubt.And, you have become personally insulting. Which means, in Internet parlance, that you are wrong, know you are wrong, and have no valid point.
End of discussion. On Apr 26, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Ray Rangel wrote:
Ok, I'm really trying to be understanding here, but it would seem that youare being deliberately obtuse and combative.Let's try this again--some games LEND themselves to role playing entirely inthe imagination; some LEND themselves towards using props (to aid in visualization and/or combat resolution). THERE IS NO JUDGMENT IS THIS STATEMENT! IT'S JUST A STATEMENT ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO PLAY! "Oh really? So you are saying that if I use props, I am not using my imagination?"WHAT THE...?!?! What kind of paranoid delusion is this? I said, nor even inferred, anything of the kind. No rational person reading the post would come to the same conclusion you have. Oh, and here's another little nugget of truth for you...in the original posts, I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU! I wasspeaking to the audience at large--not to you personally.From the discourse thus far I conclude that either you are one of the most paranoid personalities I've run across in a long time, or you are nothing but one of those individuals who simply trolls for arguments for argumentssake. In either case I'm done responding to you, as in either case any further response will just further fuel your nonsensical raving. Have a nice day. Ray Rangel ray.rangel@cox.net http://xraysvision.blogspot.com/-----Original Message-----From: tft-admin@brainiac.com [mailto:tft-admin@brainiac.com] On BehalfOf David Jackson Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:57 PM To: tft@brainiac.com Subject: Re: (TFT) Is it an RPG or really a Tactical RPG? Oh really? So you are saying that if I use props, I am not using my imagination? "some lend themselves more readily to pure imagination while others lean towards using props."> David Jackson On Apr 26, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Ray Rangel wrote:Dangerous? Whose doom is now imminent due to my post? Holy cow, do you really think that there is "veiled insult" lurking in: "Please don't read any goodness or badness into this. There are simplydifferent styles of play and all have the potential for enormous amounts of fun...at least they do for me"? Besides, how on Earth could I possibly know "the way that I've been gaming for 28 years now"? BTW, "some lend themselves more readily to pure imagination while others lean towards using props." Is not a qualifier; it's a simple statement of fact and carries NO judgment of value with it at all. Ray Rangel ray.rangel@cox.net http://xraysvision.blogspot.com/-----Original Message----- From: tft-admin@brainiac.com [mailto:tft-admin@brainiac.com] On Behalf Of David Jackson Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:10 PM To: tft@brainiac.com Subject: Re: (TFT) Is it an RPG or really a Tactical RPG? The dangerous bit, Ray, is when you use qualifiers like, "some lendthemselves more readily to pure imagination while others lean towardsusing props." When you say something like that, all I hear is a finely veiled insult to the way that I've been gaming for 28 years now. Think about it. You may actually have a valid point in it, but I'm not hearing it because I can't past your insult which has been couched in circular logic. David Jackson On Apr 25, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Ray Rangel wrote:You are 100% correct (I'm really not sure what you're disagreeing with). Any of these games can be played focused on role playing or combat or anything in between. My personal experience is that some lend themselves more readily to pure imagination while others lean toward using props. D&D (pre-3.5), GURPS, Traveller, Masterbook, Tunnels & Trolls, etc. all have combat systemsthat *can* use miniatures or boards, yet they support combat playedout totally in the player's imagination very well. TFT, on the other hand, is a lot more oriented toward playing out combat on a hex map (in this respect it is much like D&D 3.5 and it's grid). Please don't read any goodness or badness into this. There are simply different styles of play and all havethe potential for enormous amounts of fun...at least they do for me!Ray Rangel ray.rangel@cox.net http://xraysvision.blogspot.com/===== Post to the entire list by writing to tft@brainiac.com. Unsubscribe by mailing to majordomo@brainiac.com with the message body "unsubscribe tft"===== Post to the entire list by writing to tft@brainiac.com.Unsubscribe by mailing to majordomo@brainiac.com with the message body"unsubscribe tft"===== Post to the entire list by writing to tft@brainiac.com.Unsubscribe by mailing to majordomo@brainiac.com with the message body"unsubscribe tft"===== Post to the entire list by writing to tft@brainiac.com. Unsubscribe by mailing to majordomo@brainiac.com with the message body "unsubscribe tft"
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