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Re: (TFT) Is it an RPG or really a Tactical RPG?



You are so totally missing the point - and on purpose, I have no doubt.

And, you have become personally insulting. Which means, in Internet parlance, that you are wrong, know you are wrong, and have no valid point.

End of discussion.

On Apr 26, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Ray Rangel wrote:

Ok, I'm really trying to be understanding here, but it would seem that you
are being deliberately obtuse and combative.

Let's try this again--some games LEND themselves to role playing entirely in
the imagination; some LEND themselves towards using props (to aid in
visualization and/or combat resolution).

THERE IS NO JUDGMENT IS THIS STATEMENT! IT'S JUST A STATEMENT ABOUT
DIFFERENT WAYS TO PLAY!

"Oh really?  So you are saying that if I use props, I am not using my
imagination?"

WHAT THE...?!?! What kind of paranoid delusion is this? I said, nor even inferred, anything of the kind. No rational person reading the post would come to the same conclusion you have. Oh, and here's another little nugget of truth for you...in the original posts, I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU! I was
speaking to the audience at large--not to you personally.

From the discourse thus far I conclude that either you are one of the most paranoid personalities I've run across in a long time, or you are nothing but one of those individuals who simply trolls for arguments for arguments
sake. In either case I'm done responding to you, as in either case any
further response will just further fuel your nonsensical raving.

Have a nice day.

Ray Rangel
ray.rangel@cox.net
http://xraysvision.blogspot.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: tft-admin@brainiac.com [mailto:tft-admin@brainiac.com] On Behalf
Of David Jackson
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:57 PM
To: tft@brainiac.com
Subject: Re: (TFT) Is it an RPG or really a Tactical RPG?

Oh really?  So you are saying that if I use props, I am not using my
imagination?

"some lend
themselves more readily to pure imagination while others lean towards
using props.">
David Jackson

On Apr 26, 2008, at 1:01 PM, Ray Rangel wrote:

Dangerous? Whose doom is now imminent due to my post?

Holy cow, do you really think that there is "veiled insult" lurking
in: "
Please don't read any goodness or badness into this. There are simply
different styles of play and all have the potential for enormous
amounts of
fun...at least they do for me"?

Besides, how on Earth could I possibly know "the way that I've been
gaming
for  28 years now"?

BTW, "some lend themselves more readily to pure imagination while
others
lean towards using props." Is not a qualifier; it's a simple
statement of
fact and carries NO judgment of value with it at all.


Ray Rangel
ray.rangel@cox.net
http://xraysvision.blogspot.com/

-----Original Message-----
From: tft-admin@brainiac.com [mailto:tft-admin@brainiac.com] On
Behalf
Of David Jackson
Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2008 1:10 PM
To: tft@brainiac.com
Subject: Re: (TFT) Is it an RPG or really a Tactical RPG?

The dangerous bit, Ray, is when you use qualifiers like, "some lend
themselves more readily to pure imagination while others lean towards
using props."

When you say something like that, all I hear is a finely veiled
insult to the way that I've been gaming for  28 years now.

Think about it.  You may actually have a valid point in it, but I'm
not hearing it because I can't past your insult which has been
couched in circular logic.

David Jackson

On Apr 25, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Ray Rangel wrote:

You are 100% correct (I'm really not sure what you're disagreeing
with). Any
of these games can be played focused on role playing or combat or
anything
in between. My personal experience is that some lend themselves
more readily
to pure imagination while others lean toward using props. D&D
(pre-3.5),
GURPS, Traveller, Masterbook, Tunnels & Trolls, etc. all have
combat systems
that *can* use miniatures or boards, yet they support combat played
out
totally in the player's imagination very well. TFT, on the other
hand, is a
lot more oriented toward playing out combat on a hex map (in this
respect it
is much like D&D 3.5 and it's grid). Please don't read any
goodness or
badness into this. There are simply different styles of play and
all have
the potential for enormous amounts of fun...at least they do for me!


Ray Rangel
ray.rangel@cox.net
http://xraysvision.blogspot.com/
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